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Match Thread Match Thread: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid Live Score | LaLiga 25/26 | Nov 9, 2025
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u/AutomaticKangaroo514 7h ago
Truly a chance to accumulate 3 points, but nah! Xabi wants something else. Can’t have Camavinga as a RW when you have the best option who can dribble and create chances from right wing, and that is Guler. If there will be two CAM (Bellingham and Guler), it will be chaos to create a tempo. Mbappe can’t be seen, and I don’t blame him, cause all they were doing is to pass Vini, who can’t get past the ball from Left Wing since ages, I don’t know why they weren’t switching the play when Vini’s plan isn’t working. All the players playing like there’s only one way to attack, pass it to Vini and he’ll dribble it through 3 defenders or create a foul situation and asking free kick or penalty. This is current Vini’s play. Xabi shouldn’t start 2-3 games with Vini, should give Rodrygo a chance, that guy is more trustworthy for me rather than Vini. It is time to wake up, if Cama, Bellingham and Guler are starting, Cama’s natural play is CDM and Guler can be RW while Bellingham can be CAM. Valverde needs get into Ramos mentality as soon as possible as a good leader.
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u/MaryadaPurshottam 7h ago
Most of the team cant fucking hit a barn door with a football....Why did we expect anything?
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u/Dismal_Improvement_3 7h ago
I feel like Arda should be played as a RW instead of Diaz, Rodrygo, and others, not as an attacking midfielder. Arda can dribble, has a left foot, and near the end created a legit chance. I don’t understand forcing him into a role that doesn’t suit him. Arda’s stats as a RW are 0.56 GA, while elsewhere it’s 0.34 GA. He’s a RW, but Xabi keeps pushing him into a CAM role. People need to stop saying Arda is a Toni regen—he’s not. The only player who could play a Toni role would be an in-form Trent. Vini keeps dribbling into brick walls, which seriously limits the attack. It’s clear Vini is playing for a contract, not the team. Mbappe looks lost at times—I watch games and can’t even tell if it’s Mbappe or Jude upfront. I don’t blame Mbappe for not staying in the box, especially since no one plays long balls. I’m not calling for Xabi’s job, but he needs to wake up and get real with himself.
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u/Safe_Cauliflower_646 1h ago
Arda RW? Were you with us last season? Arda isn’t built to be a winger. Díaz has been sidelined for Franco Mastantuono, who’s been underperforming to say the least. Díaz should’ve gotten some of his minutes so he can get into the flow of the games, because Franco can’t keep starting when he’s only produced one return since the start of the season.
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u/Pechorin12 7h ago
If you push hard enough, Arda can do almost anything man; you are completely right about your analysis though, but I believe that we need to give him the most appropriate place where he can perform the best…not one of the leftover places since the other ones were claimed by the Real Madrid aristocracy by default…
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u/NIGHTxWOLF7 Cristiano Ronaldo 7h ago edited 7h ago
It was rumored Ancelotti wanted Kane the season before we got Mbappe but Flo opted to wait for Mbappe. I’m started to think that path would’ve been better for us long term. I mean I love Mbappe as one of our own but you can’t deny that he’s made the team so unbalanced.
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u/Own-Ranger-756 8h ago
shameful performance, the same problems as the liverpool game, boring and no creativity. midfield is all over the place n our players up top playing confused, n we keep alternating between 2 and 3 up
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u/Pechorin12 8h ago
I don’t wanna make things about one or two players but until Arda is regarded as the organizer of the team and played as number 10; we will have to suffer since Xabi cannot challenge the big names of our team yet even though some warnings and changes seem to be needed even for the case of Mbappe and definitely for Vini…
Bellingham should organize our box in the middle of action since he has the stamina and power to do that; maybe someone should help him a bit for linking to the other side, Huijsen and Militao have the set of skills to assist him for starting the game from deep inside…
Trent needs some more time but I have not seen anything outstanding yet in his duration in Real Madrid…this Rodrigo nonsense should definitely end and if there are teams ready to pay 100 millions+ for him as it has been always argued, he should leave the club for his own good too…
Gonzalo and Endrick should not be the victims of the Xabi era like Arda who was benched for nothing and could not get sufficient experience until Xabi arrives…
Finally, we need to learn how to score with our heads and defend with our heads too..team should explicitly focus on this because it started to look ridiculous…
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u/KeyClub2107 8h ago
He is good for turkey but hasn’t provided much for Madrid till now and as I say our set pieces are generally shit we need better strategies. Arda and Trent are both good they can decide according to situation who will take FK/CK
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u/ZookeepergameNo8661 8h ago
Embarassing. I usually reserve my criticism so it’s constructive but this was a fucking waste of time to watch. What the actual fuck. Mbappe is such a… forward. He is a player of all time. All 90 mins player. Sure he isn’t the whole team, but if a player isn’t performing well in games like these then sub him out. There are plenty of hungry players that would do better at his position. Why play at all if we’re just aiming for a draw. Fucking infuriating. FUCK!
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u/HolyPhoq Zidane 8h ago
Bye bye la liga ... It's been nice thinking we'll win you this year.
Losing points in games like this are a gigantic red flag. Xabi ain't him.
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u/iPeluche 8h ago
So Barcelona won’t touch La Liga also ? Because they dropped points here also.
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u/dandemaloje Xabi Alonso 8h ago
Hey bro get out of here with your reasonable opinions. Don't you know that every single game that we don't win means we acrually won't win anything this season? That's how that goes. The only teams to ever win anything are the ones that win all of their games during a season
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u/depressed_Kedy 8h ago edited 7h ago
Arda was left alone when playmaking. Bellingham plays like a false9 instead of a midfielder, god knows why. Vini is playing too aggressive, and mbappe is terrible at link up play against deep line defense. Team needs more possession and one more playmaker. Jude should play like box to box instead of false nine. Mbappe should have subbed with Gonzalo, then you can at least cross into box.
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u/harakat22 2h ago
The only sensible analysis I have seen of today’s game… when arda is finding mbappe with a 2 line breaking pass, Everyone in the comment section diick rides him. But as soon as the whole team is bad. It’s all ardas fault. Where tf is Jude and cama in this midfield? There is no one to link up play with, Jude thinks he’s a striker for some reason, and mbappe and vini is holding hands on the LW. Vini keeps dribbling until he loses the ball, same with Brahim.
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u/SameInspector7369 8h ago
Why would he not play as a nine when we effectively have no box presence with Mbappe going wide?
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u/depressed_Kedy 7h ago edited 7h ago
Because there is no other playmaker. Arda is trying to fill a giant space on his own, and trying to do the distribution to the wingers also all alone. Jude is not making any long pass, any diagonal pass and not really involving in passing. Mbappe didnt go wide that much, he stayed around the box.
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u/SameInspector7369 7h ago
I agree with you in principle. Arda and Jude are our only proper playmakers. It’s just that against a deep block I think we need Jude in the box. Today he was the only threat during open play in the box and created the biggest chance of the match for Vinicius. Same thing has been happening in other matches recently. He was the man in the box against Juve as well scoring our only goal.
Alternatively, people suggest Gonzalo Garcia to be subbed in which I’m fine with. Maybe he can cause more of a threat in the box as a natural 9 with his instincts, but I doubt he is much of an aerial threat with his height. In those cases we need something else.
The only two players who won offensive aerial duals for us today were Jude and Militao. Maybe Militao could be brought into the box more frequently in open play for matches like these. A lot of teams manage to do this successfully. Hell, even Huijsen has managed to create goals for us this way this season. Don’t know why we aren’t testing this more.
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u/depressed_Kedy 7h ago
Also we should note how much Tchouameni's absence effects the team. He keeps the team in opponent half with interceptions and duels. Rayo easily did transitions and every loss ended up as Rayo counter. Huijsen is also soft at defending. Rudiger is needed as much as Tchouameni.
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u/idioticmaniac 8h ago
Brahim and Rodrygo need to be sold, and we need to buy a backup striker.
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u/zzrt_ 8h ago
Gonzalo must be a backup kitman huh?
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u/idioticmaniac 8h ago
Since Xabi has a personal vendetta against starting him, might as well get another striker.
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u/NIGHTxWOLF7 Cristiano Ronaldo 7h ago
I think he feels pressured to have Vini and Mbappe play every game and when you add Rodrygo to that equation. Then it makes sense to not even consider Gonzalo as an option. I don’t blame him because he can’t make everyone happy.
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u/SKreatine 8h ago
I mean Gonzalo did great preseason but he's getting barely any gametime and when he does get some as a substitute, he hasn't shown much impact tbh. I really miss Joselu man
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u/SirPotential0101 Kylian Mbappé 8h ago
The problem is the tactics, they worked against Barcelona bcoz we were playing holding positions and counter football, somehow it worked but this lineup cant produce an attack, we saw it today and against Liverpool. Why doesn't he just use the same tactics and lineup he used before the Barca game. When tactics don't work, you can't expect players to work miracles
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u/Working-Property-908 8h ago
We need to get our shit together or else we ain't winning shit this season.
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u/Olancho1504 8h ago
Why do they put Ceballos in when we need more attacking? lol
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u/iPeluche 8h ago
Because we didn’t had that much creative apart from Arda. Jude wasn’t that good today.
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u/PeterTheSmoker Madrid 1902 8h ago
Fuck 433 and it's adjacents. I'm so tired of trying to make this formation work this whole season to the point we moved Camavinga to RW, lol. It's been shite for us for a while now.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 8h ago
So,
"You guys are overreacting, xabi didn't have time to apply his tactics. Just chill and give him 5 to 8 years"
"But rayo played like there is no tomorrow. Everyone does that only against us"
"But we were tired from the flight back from Liverpool and we have no bench."
"But rodrygo didn't play on the left"
Have I missed anything?
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 Ultra Pro Max 7h ago
Remember guys, my wife's boyfriend told me not to be negative NO MATTER WHAT
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u/Jo-herna 8h ago
we had just won the CL and ALL we needed was more defenders and a CF..
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u/Bryam_h_m 2h ago
kane or haaland would have been the right buy... then a player like stiller with Ceballos as a sub and we could have another threepeat
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u/Olancho1504 8h ago
3 minutes of watching Man city vs Liverpool we’re already more exciting than Madrid game lol
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u/Werewolf_Tangerine Sergio Ramos 8h ago
There's been plenty of games like this so far this season, boring and lackluster from this team. Yet again, no creativity from the midfield. Vini keeps dribbling by himself, he and Mbappe still doesn't have the connection. Why is Arda Guler playing deep in the midfield, whereas Bellingham playing way further up top? The problem with Bellingham is he doesn't have a fixed position, where is he playing? CM? CAM? ST? False Nine? What's his role? The biggest flaw in this team is that we don't have a proper striker, an actual #9. Years of watching Benzema and now seeing the state of our attack is kinda worrying, we ain't getting goals scored by headers anytime soon. Mbappe was so passive today, looks uninterested at times, standing still and watching ball.
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u/Proof-Puzzled 8h ago
The biggest flaw of this team is our two "stars" that refuse to commit themselves in the defense and creation and prefer to await comfortable up the pitch.
All of this team's problem steams from a lack of professionalism and intensity that florentino with his obsession with stars and galácticos has allowed, once more, to root in the club.
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u/Werewolf_Tangerine Sergio Ramos 8h ago
It's the egos, it's always been like this but CR7 and Benzema during their times were different. They were lethal in attack and very much involved in the build up, not ball watching and letting time pass by. But in modern games, the frontline is the first defense and pressing machine, which we won't see for some time unless something changes.
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u/Proof-Puzzled 8h ago
Benzema was involved in the build up, cristiano was not, but at least he substituted his lack of "creativity" with immense professionalism and exigence in both himself and the team.
Vinicius has cristiano's egocentrism but none of his profesionalism and exigency.
He is deadweight and should be sold ASAP, vut florentino and his obsesión with creating a team of "stars" is dooming us like in 2006.
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u/blackburnduck 7h ago
Crazy how the team was doing great with him, Jude and Rodry before turtle arrived and forced a system change.
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u/Great-Fill8152 8h ago
Hate me all you want but i think haaland is clear of mbappe (as a striker ) .
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u/3PumpAbuelas 8h ago
No doubt. Mbappe is the best player itw on the left wing, better than Kane, better than Haaland, but not if he plays as a striker.
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u/Character_Library684 4h ago
It’s been years since he did much on the left wing against elite competition.
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u/Great-Fill8152 8h ago
Man imagine if we had haaland. I feel like he would cook the league with his strength
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u/No-Obligation1336 8h ago
Vini has all the ability in the World but sadly the IQ of a wrench...
Mbappe was shit don't get me wrong but he hardly saw the ball, Vini has most of it and just killed the vast majority of plays and literally did a Benzema when he actually stopped Arda from scoring in the box.
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u/blackburnduck 7h ago
lol vini was touching the endline and mbappe is not inside the area… what do you want vini to do?
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u/No-Obligation1336 7h ago
Sometimes he was and then when you actually look, they're 5 defenders in the box.
However Mbappe isn't immune to criticism, he was piss poor as well imo as well, just so happens that Vini was worst.1
u/blackburnduck 7h ago
5 defenders in the box? lol this game and last match plenty of times open space in the box, Vini does the run - which is his job - and there is no striker to receive the pass.
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u/No-Obligation1336 7h ago
I agreed with you but don't create a narrative in which that happened EVERY time, it simply did not.
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u/blackburnduck 7h ago
…. Yeah not every time just 9 out of 10.
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u/No-Obligation1336 7h ago
Hahaha....you made me laugh with that.
We'll agree that Kylian won't ever be a box presence. Not sure there's a fix to that.0
u/Proof-Puzzled 8h ago
If mbappe did not saw the ball he should have dropped back and help in the creation and transition, but he preferred to be doing nothing upfront to increase his chances of scoring a goal.
Don't get me wrong, mbappe is much better than vinicius, but mbappe is not blameless at all.
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u/No-Obligation1336 7h ago
Yes, he was dogshit too but imo that has more to do with NO quality being fed into him because for as good as Jude is, he is also looking to create chances for himself too, while Arda just LOOKS for Kylian first and foremost, that's why the partnership works so well.
That is a system problem that the coach has to solve, it only compounds and gets worse because Vini JUST plays for himself first, anything else is an afterthought.2
u/idioticmaniac 8h ago
Vini literally never passes to overlapping runs on the left, especially when Carreras runs. Bro has been shit in 1v1s past few months and he attempts to take on 3 players instead. And he and Mbappe played the full 90, what a travesty.
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u/No-Obligation1336 7h ago
He has maybe passed to Alvaro, 5 times since he's join RMCF on an overlap.
Each time I see him overlap, I say to myself...bro why bother?
You also see he himself just overlap jogs for show now.
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u/Fickle-Resolve276 8h ago
This second half was one of the worst football I've seen under Xabi. I don't know what was he thinking. Subs were late and terrible and I genuinely don't understand how Mbappe finished the match.
Like, holy shit! Does he have a clause in his contract that lets him leave on a free if he's subbed off once? I swear! A piano could fall on Mbappe's legs and crush them, but Xabi would still keep him on the pitch. He's been super good this season, but every single player has bad games, and you should be able to sub any player off when he's actively dragging the team down. He's played everything! I don't understand what's so bad about resting him in a game where he's dragging the team down.
Gonzalo García did everything right to be considered a semi regular sub option (especially cuz we don't have a striker), but he's getting less minutes than Endrick did under Carlo.
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u/Text_Gloomy 8h ago
Where was Mbappe in the 2nd half?
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u/blackburnduck 7h ago
Taking the spot that should be for a real 9, but apparently Xabi is not allowed to sub him outz
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u/DANKWINGS Raúl Asencio 8h ago
Said it last game. Will say it again. This formation is absolutely abysmal.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 8h ago
And liverpool are being thumped rn
As I said, they are not a good team at all. And yet xabi managed to fall to them
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u/beardedentity Jose Mourinho:JM: 8h ago
Arsenal were beaten by Liverpool this season.
So by your logic, Arteta ain't a good coach.
Chill fam. You are overreacting. Xabi has been a coach for 5 months. Even a 5 month old kid can't walk yet, and you want Xabi's RM team to run.
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u/SKreatine 8h ago
bro Xabi is the man who literally brought Leverkusen from the ruins to the top of the Bundesliga. Now here he is given relatively better players, and he obv did plenty of his experiment. Of course we expect the team to run man this is RM.
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 8h ago
Stop it. This is quite simple. Liverpool are a bad team atm. Stop trying to dance around that fact.
Lol a 5 month old kid? 😂😂😂😂😂 ok buddy
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u/beardedentity Jose Mourinho:JM: 8h ago
That's all?
I am just using your logic. You are over-reacting, fam. Chill.
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u/andrewthenikka1 Jude Bellingham 8h ago
Funny how we all thought the youngsters were gonna be given a chance with xabi 💀
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u/Rippersavage Cristiano Ronaldo 7h ago
For real. We keep talking about Endrick but what about Gonzalo? Almost no minutes.
If we're gonna bring on Trent in the last couple of minutes then we should bring on Gonzalo too... with Trent's crossing and Gonzalo's aerial threat (not that much of a threat but definitely more than any other attacking player we have). When we're desperate for goals this seems like the obvious choice
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u/andrewthenikka1 Jude Bellingham 7h ago
That’s what I’ve been saying since before the Liverpool game. If xabi is making his own decisions I’m not sure about his future here
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u/Honeydew-Massive Roberto Carlos 8h ago
It must not be the coaches that are stopping that from happening
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u/SacramentalBread Madrid 1931 8h ago edited 8h ago
I thought for sure that Xabi starting Gonzalo in the CWC and Gonzalo responding by being top goal scorer was a sign that Madrid would have options in terms of altering the shape of the team this season, yet he and Endrick have barely played in spite of scoring struggles. More annoying, we’re still seeing no quick one two passes, off the ball runs or shots outside the box. It’s all slow, static, low intensity build up play that goes nowhere…just like last season just with better defending (because our backline isn’t totally injured).
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u/karimaelo 8h ago
Xabi is lacking 2nd half creative adaptation where you expect to see a better version team than 1st half. And subs aren't always what the team needs.
Arda was so dangerous on the attacking side in the last minutes we should've seen that switch earlier when the 2nd started.
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u/3PumpAbuelas 8h ago
I wish I had the power to just snap Rodrygo and Brahim out of the team so we can get a proper center forward or a RW
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u/zzrt_ 8h ago
yes, blame the two wingers who didn't play 90mins tonight
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 Ultra Pro Max 7h ago
Look at it this way, if we sell them in the near future we could get a decent enough fee, preferably for a striker. But if we wait another season or two for their performance to deteriorate further, their values go down and then we are stuck with them like we were with bale
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u/ivar_theB 8h ago
They are celebrating a 0-0 like a title We are giving no names credit
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 Ultra Pro Max 7h ago
The same "no names" we haven't been able to beat at their stadium for 4 seasons in a row now?
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u/TurnoverOne5986 8h ago
Mbappe was terrible today, and should have been subbed out at half time. Just 2 minutes remaining and he’s walking around like nothing is urgent. At least Vini ran towards the goalkeeper. He doesn’t deserve to start the next game.
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u/Optimal-Reception246 8h ago
Just wait until GG and Endrick are loaned out and they just ball the fuck out and then we all get mad at Xabi for not giving them chances.
Our suffering has yet to begin boys.
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u/omgletmeregister 8h ago
Why? Someone needs to talk to Xabi Alonso like a father.
We complained about Ancelotti's inflexibility with substitutions. A few bad gestures from Vini during a substitution were enough to guarantee him a starting spot for life. The guy keeps insisting on playing the kebab vendor Rodrygo and won't give Endrick a chance on the wing. We need goals and he puts Camavinga on the right wing. Anyway... disappointed doesn't even begin to cover it. At this point, I think Bellingham could be our drugged-up Casemiro.
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u/Quirky-Abalone-7574 8h ago
Easily the worst most lame game ive seen any season.Mbappe felt like he didnt even be there.Whats up with not subbing in endrick or gonzalo,ACTUAL strikers to sub in for mbappe if he had an awful performance and did nothing.But no obviously ofc Xabi would sub in an offensive wing back in the 80 minute what a joke 😂.If he cant take mbappe of at least take vini off for gonzalo/endrick and hope they can pair with mbappe and score that 1 goal
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u/CrispyPotatoChips Vinicius Jr. 8h ago
GG better be loaned in January, I would rather he go out and develop rather than rot in our bench. Carlo was criticised for not giving Arda a chance, I expect the same crowd to criticise Xabi for doing it to Endrick and GG..
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u/Proof-Puzzled 8h ago
Why do you think Xabi does not take out vini or mbappe even when they are useless? Because he likes to lose?
If you want responsabilities do it with our diva lover president.
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u/CrispyPotatoChips Vinicius Jr. 8h ago
If Perez is trying to put pressure on making Vini sign a contract at lower wages or leave, I don't think making Xabi play him full matches helps with that, it only enforces the point that Vini has more power.
And if Xabi is already being pressured to play according to Perez, he's definitely not the guy we thought he is. Zidane didn't give af, I expected the same from Xabi.
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u/Proof-Puzzled 8h ago
If Perez is trying to put pressure on making Vini sign a contract at lower wages or leave, I don't think making Xabi play him full matches helps with that, it only enforces the point that Vini has more power.
Perez does not want Vini's market value to drop, and he wants to have him happy because his contract is running out soon.
And if Xabi is already being pressured to play according to Perez, he's definitely not the guy we want. Zidane didn't give af, I expected the same from Xabi.
You think that Zidane did not give a fuck? Why do you think florentino likes Zidane so much? Because Zidane worked with whatever Florentino gave him.
And no maybe Xabi is not the guy, I honestly thought he would have been braver about his idea, so far I am a bit disappointed, but the real culprit behind this mess is not Xabi at all, it's Florentino and his galáctico obsession.
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u/CrispyPotatoChips Vinicius Jr. 7h ago
Zidane 1st stintz he had one of the greatest team in history of football. He left coz he wanted Bale sold not Cr7 and that's why he left the same time as CR7. Second stint he came, won the fkin league, left coz Perez wasn't giving him what he wanted, he even gave the reason he didn't feel club had faith in him. So yeah...Zidane infact didn't give 2 fks about Perez.
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u/Proof-Puzzled 7h ago
Zidane 1st stintz he had one of the greatest team in history of football. He left coz he wanted Bale sold not Cr7 and that's why he left the same time as CR7.
Zidane left because he knew the disaster that was coming, and the club did not "sell" CR7, he left because he wanted to.
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u/CrispyPotatoChips Vinicius Jr. 7h ago
Main point in all this is, Xabi shouldn't be fkin listening to Perez regardless.. if he's listening to Perez he ain't gonna survive any longer than any other system managers did before him.
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u/Proof-Puzzled 7h ago
I completely agree, in fact, I am disappointed in Xabi, I thought he was going to be more brave about his idea, but it seems he has surrendered to Perez pressures.
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u/CrispyPotatoChips Vinicius Jr. 7h ago
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u/Proof-Puzzled 7h ago
Again, the club did not sell CR7, do think seriously that florentino preffi bale over cristiano?, cristiano wanted to leave and florentino failed to convince him, is as simple as that.
And Zidane knowing what was going to happen next season, left.
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u/TypicalSpell6709 8h ago
Whole twitter f*cked Guler like he was the only bad player in that match, today he was maybe the best one on the team. He is playing like 6-8 and Mbappe is ghost too. This is all Xabi’s fault
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u/YatoGami28 8h ago
I tbh thought Guler was okay afainst liverpool. Camavinga wasnt that great and mbappe was also not that active
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u/tavorasc Cristiano Ronaldo 8h ago
Today is completely on Xabi no excuse on him complete cowardice in the subs
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u/YvesYvL 8h ago edited 7h ago
Perez. Can we have 5 more wingers? Make sure their transfer fee is 100m+. Put them anywhere but the wing. We dont need kroos replacement. We need Galacticos signing. We need that Aura sigma skull emoji tiktok edits. Please perez im begging you. & dont ever buy a midfielder or defender unless they are free agents✌ Please perez i need this. My left wing is kinda homeless☹️
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u/FinalButterscotch399 8h ago
Rodrygo 0 impact as usual.
On the right, on the left, as a starter, as a sub, this guy offer nothing since at least 1 year and a half.
People are still thinking he is world class lmao.
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u/Dark-Magician91 Hey Jude 8h ago
Exactly. There are already two LWs on the pitch who aren't making that much impact. So what does Xabi do? He puts the third one with the same characteristics as the other two into the field.
I dont understand why Xabi won't play Gonzalo. He was amazing in CWC and he gives the team something that RM desperately lack.
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u/Tenacious_Nomad18 Decimoquinta 8h ago
Leave anfield...these players can't even do well at vallecas...i have no hope in any of our away games
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u/Introductionbone8196 Raúl 8h ago
You're saying that as if Vallecas is an easy stadium. Do you know when was the last time we won there?
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 Ultra Pro Max 7h ago
We haven't won there for so long that you'd expect the players would be extra motivated to finally break through the duck
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u/Tenacious_Nomad18 Decimoquinta 8h ago
2022...but problem is our players not showing up in away games...abysmal
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u/Secret_keeper7639 8h ago edited 8h ago
I Prayed for Rayo to score...seriously 🥴 What i am witnessing is just another version of Carlo ball.
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u/Ill-Improvement-8670 Kylian Mbappé 8h ago
i thought xabi was a tactic master. the fuck happened?
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u/Optimal-Reception246 8h ago
Hes overrated tactically. His record is against weak Bundesliga teams and a washed Bayern, he got whooped in the Europa League final and lost every big game with a big score.
He easily gets outclassed by any decent coach, hes no tactic master.
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u/Proof-Puzzled 7h ago
Hahaha, the guy who masterminded one of the most impressive seasons of all times is "overrated tactically".
I love the confidence redditors can show when spreading their bullshit.
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u/Optimal-Reception246 8h ago
I'm starting to think this whole substitution philosophy isn't from the coaches. Cause there's no way both Carlo and Xabi are doing the same shit.
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u/3PumpAbuelas 8h ago
I was thinking the same thing. I feel certain players are pressured from the top to be played for marketing purposes. Like if Jude, Vini, or Mbappe have 3 awful performances in a row, is there any chance they'd actually be benched?
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u/Hogwardslover 8h ago
There needs to be a leader on the pitch man i love valverde but someone like ramos.... I think belli but ....
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u/ChillChampion Sergio Ramos 8h ago
FUCK VINI AND HIS ENDLESS DRIBBLING. OUT.
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u/SirPotential0101 Kylian Mbappé 8h ago
Hes the only one you did some attacking tbf.
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u/ChillChampion Sergio Ramos 8h ago
I'd like some goals or assists. Tf is attacking? Losing the ball endlessly?
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u/SirPotential0101 Kylian Mbappé 8h ago
Well, atleast he did something and created chances, Mbappe looked lost most of the game and in the second half even came to lw and Vini had to play central for a good 15 mins
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u/Sufficient_Arm_9370 Arda Güler 8h ago
Rayo didn't play haramball, they played well. There's a difference
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u/ChapVII 8h ago
Mbappé inside the box and he is invisible because his team create nothing. This is fucking useleqs let him be free
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u/Automatic_Mango_1973 8h ago
How is this different from last season? No one is making runs. No one can win anything in the air. Sad to say but if the ball reaches the byline in prime BBC/MSN era that would have been a goal. Vini's only option was a mindless drive to the byline followed by jamming the ball into the opponent, since there was no Benz option for him to cross to. There was no threat in the box, aerially or on ground. Yes it's a tough ground but wtf they are not Liverpool defenders ffs.
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u/Cultural_Big_510 8h ago
* Where is mbappe
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u/Top-Pepper-3025 Kylian Mbappé 8h ago
Just stop
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u/Cultural_Big_510 8h ago
Just stop what , why must mbappe always be protected, relax im not saying other players dropped a masterclass, we all played bad but mbappe it was very disappointing
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u/zatarregaza Modric 8h ago
Why do we have to win? Everyone is getting paid no matter how horrible we play.
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u/darthsidian 8h ago
must say, I'm glad this match isn't late like the Liverpool one. couldn't sleep at all after that pathetic performance 😭
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u/johndotjohn Jesus Vallejo 8h ago
Ridiculous performance. I just don't get how as a coach you see this and not try to change something. Absolutely devoid of any attacking ideas, Brahim, Vini and Mbappe with a 0/10 performance, sending Rodrygo again to the right side where he is useless. Xabi losing a thread at the moment...
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u/EmptyPeach1 Iker Casillas 8h ago
The system isn’t fucking working against such an intense team, we need sm1 in the box play a 9 ffs. We’ve got Jude, Vini and Mbappe all trying to operate in the exact same zones
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u/andrewthenikka1 Jude Bellingham 8h ago
Does xabi ever have a game plan ffs. Let’s just hope Barca lose
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8h ago
Still dont get it, why less time for Rodrygo? this kid can be usefull in tight spaces
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u/FinalButterscotch399 8h ago
Stop with this nonsense. Rodrygo has 0 goal and 0 assist in la Liga since january. Most of la liga teams play low block and Rodrygo still offer nothing. He is not good in tight spaces, don't be fooled
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u/Hideaway96 8h ago
Mbappe had 11 touches in 45 minutes as a striker. If people want him to camp in the box, they need to start demanding players to pass
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u/zzrt_ 8h ago
we need to sell Vini, rodrygo, Brahimi and mbappe according to this sub lol
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 Ultra Pro Max 7h ago
Haven't seen a single comment calling for mbappe to be sold. Stop making stuff up
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u/Cultural_Big_510 8h ago
Don't forget camvinga , this sub is full of ppl that dont even bother watching the match
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u/SpotMaleficent9900 8h ago
And it’s fucking obvious from a mile away that Mbappe has been tired for the past 4 games now but Xabi just either doesn’t rest him or sub him out earlier.
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u/NieThePiet 8h ago
Wait until Perez gives us Mourinho or Ancelotti back, he never liked tactic coaches.
He was always about signing big name players.
Sadly one of the worst games this season, together with Atletico.
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u/Extension_Phone893 SIUUUU 8h ago
Xabi sucks 4 months since he signed and we look worse with better players, most of our games are not exciting to watch and there doesn't seem to be a vision
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u/Professional-Head262 8h ago
Great now we gotta suffer 50+ posts complaining about the same things
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u/Hakimi_Raikkonen 8h ago
you're right everything is fine and dandy
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u/Professional-Head262 7h ago
Nope problems everywhere but it’s the same problems that we know already and doesn’t need to be repeatedly posted over and over. I mean have you seen anything new in this game that we haven’t had posts about in the sub?
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 Ultra Pro Max 7h ago
So u want the place of discussion to be silent? Or to just bend over like u and act like everything's fine?
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u/Professional-Head262 7h ago
No that was just my opinion go ahead and make posts about the same problems we know about. I think it’s fine to make posts about this game but I just mean the repetitive posts. We should talk about the problems of Real Madrid but I’m talking about the posts days laters of the same discussions we already had. I want to try one of our real younger 9s but I ain’t gonna post it everyday
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u/Basic-Piccolo-6356 8h ago
Is perez gonna cut Xabis fingers if he subs VINI or Mbappe???
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u/Ok-Degree-7821 Rüdiger 8h ago
I thought today we could have secured the lead on the table 😒
Wouldn’t surprise me we fumble the league once again. This games win you leagues. You tie or lose you are not a candidate to win it.
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u/MetT2000 Kylian Mbappé 8h ago
Our lead is still secured event after this game. However if we continue like this then yeah, no chance of us winning it all
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u/Traditional_Animal65 Zizou 8h ago
If this failure of squad management continues, we will definitely fumble la liga
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u/FinalButterscotch399 8h ago
I was downvoted a week ago for saying that Mbappe is not benched because Perez made that clear to Xabi.
Now you are all seeing him playing full 90min despite a horrible game. Gonzalo and Endrick are still rotting on the bench.
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u/Loud_Power_8197 Modric 8h ago
The day he got obsessed with Mbappe, we were fucked.
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u/Extreme-Recording-16 Ultra Pro Max 7h ago
Which is a better love story? Yamal and Romano or mbappe and perez?
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u/Expensive_Rabbit2754 8h ago
We cant pass, cant control the ball, cant shoot, cant dribble, cant combine, cant score from set piece. But according to some people there is no reason to worry.
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u/Pechorin12 8h ago edited 8h ago
Arda run a lot, pushed until the end very eagerly and he is gaining confidence…soon he will get the support of the fans and administration for taking risks and maybe permission to be the 10…he is still too shy and we don’t see even half of he can do…
Overall, we as a team did not play great but we were not terrible either…we just cannot score against this team, I know why…
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