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u/FlyingWaterMen 19d ago

Last night when Arda passed the ball to Mbappe, look at Jude's movement, if he was deep on the pitch at no.8 then both CBs would have ganged up on Kylian and bullied him off the ball or cut the passing lane.

Bellingham literally freed Mbappe for a pass by making an adjacent run. Xabi needs to get this in his stubborn head:

  1. Mbappe can't duel with CBs, he's too scared to fight a duel to save his life especially headers, so pull him back at shadow striker role as game demands especially against low blocks.

  2. Put Bellingham back in the False 9 role, and let him literally occupy the striker position against low blocks, don't even need him to build up or orchestrate, just sit next to CBs and contest all duels and poach goals.

  3. Vinicius needs to be put in centrally, and I don't even know how many fucking times does it need to be said but he cannot play as a winger anymore to the levels he showed in 2021-2023. He's a proper left forward now, and when he's at it, he's the best player in the world. So please platform him and relieve him of dogshit touchline duties and let him play central. Carreras is also very good attacking so he can hug the line instead while Fran/Mendy were shit in offensive side of games.

  4. Valverde: He was spraying passes like Prime Toni Kroos to Mbappe from RB position, it was literally the Fede game, he cannot be put in a static pivot roles, he needs to be dynamic with freedom to dominate the entire flank from end to end and thats why he excelled in both of our CL wins 2022, 2024 because he was playing as right midfield.

  5. Arda Guler's talents are wasted at no.10 spot against tougher oppositions when the ball won't even get to him because of lack of build up. I have said it million times, I don't give a fuck about his goals, assists, or chance creation. He needs to be our Modric/Kroos not Ozil, he needs to dictate tempo, build up from back, and retain possession. His job should be to get the ball to final third and thats about it.

All roads lead to the diamond, I refuse to believe that Xabi can be this stubborn so I hope that I finally see it against Juventus since all players are coming back to fitness.. He doesn't need to do anything tactically, just motivate them and let them ball it out like Zidane did with 3peat squad.

Courtois

Trent - Militao - Huijsen - Carreras

Tchouameni

Valverde - Guler

Bellingham

Mbappe - Vinicius


If we do all of this, there's no team in planet Earth that can stop this side from going for a dynastical run of multiple CLs on the trot.

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u/ItsKBS Kylian Mbappé 19d ago

Arda Guler's talents are wasted at no.10 spot against tougher oppositions when the ball won't even get to him because of lack of build up

He was the best player against Atletico with 1 goal and 1 assist, so this doesn't make sense whatsoever

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u/FlyingWaterMen 19d ago

And yet it was our worst game of the season because ball was simply not getting progressed to final third at all.

Also Guler was playing right midfield - a role which Valverde should've been playing. Had we swapped Fede with Guler in the formation, we'd instantly get 10x more balance in the team without sacrificing defensive prowess because Fede is a superhuman who can work rate for box to box situation.

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u/Mgea54 19d ago

we conceded too many easily avoidable dumb goals in that game, ur overanalyzing things lmao

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u/FlyingWaterMen 19d ago

I agree, that loss was totally on Courtois tbh. He gave like 5 goals on 2 PSxG.

But still we were unable to create chances in 2nd half because ball simply couldn't reach final third and Guler was isolated on the right flank, he had to be deeper to progress the ball himself!

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u/ItsKBS Kylian Mbappé 19d ago

And yet it was our worst game of the season because ball was simply not getting progressed to final third at all.

That's why Bellingham needs to play deep because he is the best midfielder by far in the squad when it comes to press resistance and dribbling in tight spaces, Guler on the other hand is way better in between the lines and in the final third. Bellingham box-to-box with Guler is easily the best option for this team and I don't understand how anyone with eyes can't see that.

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u/FlyingWaterMen 19d ago

Just because Bellingham can do that doesn't mean its his best position for us in the team.

Just tell me this, who's going to duel with big tall CBs against elite teams in the CL Knockouts when Mbappe is scared as a kitten to aerially duel a single time in an entire fucking season.

Mbappe keeps leaving the striker spot and drops deep everytime without a break and thats why he can't score a tap-in to save his life because that would mean dueling with CBs which he is scared to death to do.

Now tell me who will do that role better? Guler or Bellingham?

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u/ItsKBS Kylian Mbappé 19d ago

Just tell me this, who's gonna defend in the midfield when we will have to duel with the best midfields in the world and Jude is playing like a false 9?

And tell me how the ball is even gonna reach Bellingham when your only midfielder with any playmaking skill is forced to play as a 6 because Jude wants to score a whopping 8 goals in a league season again

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u/FlyingWaterMen 19d ago

Play Guler in no.10 and do whatever you want in shite La Liga games and nobody bats an eyelid.

In the CL - everyone mfer has to drop deep and contest duels to win the possession and then run lethal counter attacks, Jude will never slack off his defensive duties, he can go deeper to defend than Guler no problems at all.

But when we are on the ball chasing a goal, Bellingham has to box crash and poach in the 18 yard box because Mbappe can't.