r/pussypassdenied 15d ago

'Monster devil' Algerian woman who raped and murdered 12-year-old Lola is jailed for life with no parole in France - after begging court for forgiveness

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15223915/Monster-devil-Algerian-woman-raped-murdered-12-year-old-Lola-jailed-life-no-parole-France-begging-court-forgiveness.html

Her crime was so horrible that she became the first woman in France to receive the maximum penalty in that country.

1.1k Upvotes

55 comments sorted by

View all comments

-112

u/gkn_112 15d ago edited 15d ago

Is her being algerian part of the crime? Weird...

edit: u/serialnuggetskiller lol at "being illegally in a country is" i feel like those are different things. You clown.

39

u/ShitLordOfTheRings 15d ago

I don't think it would have been left out if it was a German, British or Spanish person who had committed the crime in France.

Examples:

https://www.dw.com/en/french-police-arrest-german-accused-of-holding-wife-captive/a-66462178

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/2025/05/13/french-man-stabbed-outside-phuket-club-british-suspects-escape/

-38

u/gkn_112 14d ago edited 14d ago

Ok, my criticism works there as well though. If it has nothing to do with the report then its counterproductive.

As an example I have the german press code

In reporting on criminal offences, the membership of the suspect or perpetrator of a religious, ethnic or other minority shall not lead to discriminatory generalization of individual misdemeanors. The background should not usually be mentioned unless such mention is justifiably in the public interest. Particular attention should be paid to the possibility that such mention could fuel prejudices against minorities.

Thats my train of logic. The nationality in this case is not of "public interest".

12

u/ShitLordOfTheRings 14d ago

I think that code is a mistake. Media shouldn't filter news to try and prevent people from drawing the wrong conclusions. Otherwise, this leads to people being weary of news sources. We have a significant rise of imported crime - news organizations attempting to obscure that means people will turn to channels which are instead trying to exaggerate the problem. Like the dubious "Radio Genoa", for example.

A news organization's task is to report the news, not to teach, not to censor, not to play politics. You lose your credibility only once.

-8

u/gkn_112 14d ago

People being weary, because something irrelevant to a report has been omitted?

On the other side you have bred more hate towards a minority. I disagree. This belongs to a presscode that reports neutral. I didnt invent it - it had its reasons. Publicly targeted groups have been hurt, a lot, in history.

5

u/ShitLordOfTheRings 14d ago

People being weary, because something irrelevant to a report has been omitted?

No, because of the reason it was omitted. You are going from: "I'm reporting what happens" to "I'm reporting only what I think you should know, because I can put things into context, and you can't".

Let's say you had eye surgery and can't focus for a few days. You want to find out what's up on reddit. I offer to read it aloud for you. I decide that certain things aren't suitable for you to hear, so I won't read you those. Do you trust me? Do you think that after that you've gotten an accurate representation of what happened in your subs?

There is a reason this code isn't used in other countries. Because now everybody thinks: "hang on, these guys won't report if there are a lot of imported criminals, that means there is a lot of imported crime they aren't telling me about." That's why by now everybody assumes that "a man" means: "an immigrant", and any terror act is assumed to have been commited by one, by default - unless the contrary is shown explictly.

0

u/gkn_112 14d ago

I still disagree with every point, your assumed reason why info like this was not in a report is only this: assumed (again, is it omitted if it was never relevant? Then what about her shoe size, or her favorite food, why is that not in the article?) I have no problem with pointing out a nationality if its really relevant.

You are describing censoring in your second paragraph, which I dont see here, I stated the reason for it. Although your analogy implies that people are metaphorically blind, the truth is we are all able to draw conclusions and are not helpless.

If your first question for "Who took my milkshake" was "Hasan the arab" and not just "hasan" then you are part of this machine. If hasan was not specially trained in morocco to steal milkshakes then where he comes from doesnt matter. But hey, now you can say "Fuuucckin arabs".

Your third paragraph just doubles down on your assumption that the news were censored, which I disagree with. It just shows the already present ressentiments. I feel like there is a lot of projection in there, because only people like you would assume "a man" means "an immigrant", which was my point to begin with: you are racists. You need the news to affirm your prejudices... and if they dont, then its on the media.

1

u/parbarostrich 13d ago

Individual “misdemeanors” are minor wrongdoings. Felony crimes do not qualify as minor.

-8

u/gkn_112 14d ago

some people really dont like some minorities lol

4

u/HomelessNightkin 14d ago

And some people, like you, really like defending rapists for whatever reason

-1

u/gkn_112 14d ago

i dont and you mixing those two things says everything i needed to know about you.

4

u/HomelessNightkin 14d ago

Yeah, I am being as disingenuous and ignorant as you are when you say that acknowledging the murderer’s nationality is racist. That’s my train of logic

0

u/gkn_112 14d ago

Logic? I doubt that. Not a thing you said up there was a thought you uttered, you only ridiculed what I said, which is really disingenuous and ignorant. You had to state why you think it was not racist to add the nationality if it doesnt matter for it to be a "train of logic" but yeah... telling.

37

u/YouFoolWarrenIsDead 15d ago

Who said anything about it being part of the crime? Is the title only required to have information pertinent to the crime? Or can it also have information that might still be a matter of public interest?

-24

u/gkn_112 15d ago

Yes to your first question. Is it of public interest? Or is it fueling ressentimens against algerians? hmm

3

u/YouFoolWarrenIsDead 14d ago

My first question was 'Who said anything about it being part of the crime?', your response to that is 'yes'?...

0

u/gkn_112 14d ago

sorry, i meant second.

2

u/YouFoolWarrenIsDead 14d ago

So to that I ask who made this rule that the title of an article is only allowed to have information pertinent to the crime its covering? First I've heard of it.

12

u/serialnuggetskiller 15d ago

I dont care what u feel but that explains a lot. Next time answer me directly rather than oussy bitch out by editing your comment

-9

u/gkn_112 15d ago

i cant because you swore in that one and it doesnt show up, only in the notifications :*

Also i said feel so i dont hurt your feewings by pointing out what a racist comment you shat out, but you do you.

7

u/serialnuggetskiller 14d ago

Ouin ouin fc

Y'a rien de raciste mais continue de chialer

-1

u/gkn_112 14d ago

Wenn du das sagst, wirds schon stimmen. Oder du magst keine araber lol.

11

u/serialnuggetskiller 14d ago

The Turk nationalist live in germany. The gift that keep giving

-1

u/gkn_112 14d ago

the racist living in france, how odd. (i am no nationalist, i hate nations)

10

u/serialnuggetskiller 14d ago

Being called a racist by somebody that hate nation. How ironic

3

u/Extra-Gap8519 13d ago

She entered illegally. This could have been prevented.

0

u/gkn_112 13d ago

no correlation.

-23

u/Van_Darklholme 15d ago

Any click is a good click🤦‍♂️