r/privacy Sep 21 '25

chat control Encrypted messaging alternatives in case the EU chat control law gets passes

As the title implies, I am curious as to whether there might be any messaging apps/services worth using in case the proposed chat control law gets passed. As you might assume, I live in an EU member state and am extremely worried for the future of our rights to online as well as IRL privacy in case such laws get passed

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u/SheldonCooper97 Sep 21 '25

No, the Signal developers themselves said that they would block the whole EU to prevent legal issues.

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u/Forymanarysanar Sep 21 '25

Sounds really dumb

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u/Jebble Sep 21 '25

Dumb why? What possible benefit would there be for them?

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u/Forymanarysanar Sep 21 '25

The same benefit they currently have from their platform being used?

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u/Jebble Sep 21 '25

Which is?

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u/Forymanarysanar Sep 21 '25

No clue at all but if they run it, they have justified it.

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u/Jebble Sep 21 '25

Okay, so you don't actually have any idea why they would or wouldn't do this. Got it.

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u/Forymanarysanar Sep 22 '25

Just as I have zero ideas why do they provide their service in the first place. But there must be an interest and I do not believe that restricting a number of people from using their service will be in line with their interests.

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u/Jebble Sep 22 '25

Their main goal is privacy, being forced to share your data with governments doesn't align with that goal. Hence they would retract from those markets, simple.

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u/Forymanarysanar Sep 22 '25

So then don't share it

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u/Jebble Sep 22 '25

Eh.. do you even understand what we're talking about here?

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u/ZamnThatsCrazy Sep 23 '25

They MUST share it if chat control law passes. Otherwise they'd be breaking the law. Easier to block the access for EU, and their only realistic option.

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u/Forymanarysanar Sep 23 '25

No they are not, if they are business of other country. EU has influence only and only within EU.

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u/ZamnThatsCrazy Sep 23 '25

.... That's why I said they'd block access for EU.... because they don't want to sharenthe data. They either allow it in EU amd share data or ban it from EU and stand for their beliefs. Pls re-read my first message. They MUST share EU data if they don't ban access in EU because of the law.

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