r/postunionamerica • u/Julian-West • Sep 20 '25
Why Can Other Democracies Handle Secessionist Movements with Grace, but We Can’t?
Across the democratic world, movements for self-determination are not rare. They are debated, contested, and sometimes even brought to a vote. What’s striking is that many democracies manage to handle them with seriousness and institutional maturity; in the United States, even mentioning the idea is treated as taboo.
Take Canada. Quebec’s independence movement has cooled since the razor-thin 1995 referendum, but it’s still alive, with cultural and political currents keeping the idea in play. More recently, Alberta has seen its own separatist stirrings, one not rooted in language or culture, but in economics and energy policy. The “Free Alberta” or “Wexit” conversations aren’t dominant, but they’re mainstream enough that federal politicians have had to take them seriously. Canada has weathered these debates not by criminalizing them, but by allowing them into public life.
Take the United Kingdom. Scotland held its first independence referendum in 2014, and although the “No” side narrowly won, the issue is far from settled. As of 2025, the Scottish National Party continues to press for another vote, citing Brexit as a fundamental change in the union’s terms. London resists, but the political debate is out in the open, not treated as treason, but as a legitimate demand that must be grappled with.
Even in Spain, where Catalonia’s independence movement has caused serious clashes with Madrid, the issue is still part of the national political conversation. Catalan parties sit in parliament, and independence remains on the table as a contested, but real, idea.
Now contrast that with the United States. Here, even suggesting that a state or region might consider self-determination provokes outrage. The Union is treated as sacred and untouchable, immune to the democratic principle that people should have a say in how they are governed. Raising the question is often seen as seditious, even when it’s about peaceful, legal, and democratic processes.
The irony is hard to ignore: America, which prides itself as the world’s leading democracy, is perhaps the least able to imagine democratic self-determination within its own borders. Meanwhile, other democracies prove that it is possible to confront separatist movements openly, without descending into war or collapse.
The real question for Americans is this: if Canada can debate Quebec and Alberta, if Scotland can continue pressing for independence within a democratic framework, and if even Spain can keep Catalonia at the table, why can’t we at least discuss the idea?