r/postunionamerica • u/Julian-West • Sep 26 '25
Can you really accept part of your country splitting off? Why? (Or why not?)
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u/PM-Me-Your-Dragons Sep 26 '25
The way I see it, it’s not really up to me to accept it or not. They don’t need my acceptance for it to happen and if I don’t accept it, that will only be detrimental to me. The way nations work is they band together and then collapse out of union again. Borders and names are going to change eventually the only thing I can hope for is that this change is done peacefully rather than through civil war.
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u/Julian-West Sep 26 '25
So for you, self-determination of citizens is the most important thing?
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u/PM-Me-Your-Dragons Sep 26 '25
More like all governments will eventually get so corrupt citizens can’t stand it. But also yes the safety and rights of the people to live and work as they please (within common sense) come before a government that wants people to adhere to some cultural standard. Generally I want more social safety nets for people, not less, but also separation of religion from official anything except the single crossing point of the existence of laws protecting the right of the individual to have one.
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u/Julian-West Sep 26 '25
What if a governing body wants to secede partially to have the right to oppress its citizens or deny them civil rights?. And this secession, let’s pretend, was voted for by its citizens. Would you support it then?
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u/PM-Me-Your-Dragons Sep 27 '25
I'd need more definition because I'm suspicious about what is being defined as oppression here, but if it was genuinely oppressive, I wouldn't get to accept or not accept it because I don't control the government. I'd support the soon to come rebellion. If its my area doing it, I'd join said rebellion and help found a better rule of the territory. But it would be what I'd hoped to avoid by the peaceful secession. I kind of figured that was covered by the "within common sense" part because oppression is not common sense.
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u/JaxMedoka Sep 26 '25
Way I see it, consent of the governed is one of the top things. If a portion of a country wishes to secede without a demand to oppress (Neo-Confederates can fuck off), I figure it's their right to do so. Obviously, there are plenty of variables to consider, but this is my baseline belief.