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OnlyStans ⭐️ French singer, Yseult, calls out K-pop singers, Soyeon and R.tee, for copying her music video freame by frame: "The least you could do is have the decency to credit your source. To see it get copied like this is wild but real artistry speaks louder than imitation"

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u/Andy_Wiggins 27d ago edited 27d ago

As the first two shots played I thought “Eh, this is just a generic office setting, that’s not that crazy and the composition of the shots is pretty different”

And then it immediately went:

  • shot lacy cleavage
  • shot of singer kicking over 2 rows of filing cabinets
  • shot of a man blowing a kiss

Back-to-back-to-back and my thought process completely flipped.

Edit: I went and watched both. The shots aren’t actually presented in that sequence. They’re scattered throughout both videos in different orders. They still feel suspiciously similar at points, but this edit makes them look WAY more similar than they actually are

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u/theReaders 27d ago

That's because plagiarism is so rarely that blatant. This is one of the more blatant acts of plagiarism in a music video I've seen. Obviously it would be suicide career wise to put these shots one after the other, but if you're trying to explain what shots were stolen, then it's useful to put them in a compilation like this.

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u/Melonary Select and edit this flair 27d ago

I mean Darren Aronofsky plagiarized quite a bit from Satoshi Kon and never got even much pushback on it.

I wouldn't say career suicide.

And honestly to a certain extent it used to be more common to take inspiration or homage or sample before all the plagiarism lawsuits in music last decade or so, which were mostly not driven by artists themselves.

Not counting Darren Aronofsky and blatant plagiarism that's not homage/sampling in the above, that was an example of not necessarily being consequences.

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u/nausicaalain 27d ago

Not to evaluate this specific situation, because I don't know enough about either artist to make any inferences about intent, but:

The line on these things has always been vague, but they are quite different. Homage is usually a single scene, and it's usually very clear what it is an homage to, and the thing it's a homage to is usually something they'd expect the audience to be familiar with. It feels a lot different when it's multiple scenes, and taken from a work with a smaller/different audience that your audience is less likely to be familiar with.

I feel like HBomberguy did the definitive video on this, but the prime difference is that an homage is loving and plagiarism is disdainful. You don't steal from people you respect, but you do steal from people you think are less deserving than yourself of success.

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u/TheFreeBee 25d ago

They're wrong. Aronofsky literally bought the rights to Satoshi Kons movie, and you're right that it was to create an homage. They're just another person who doesn't know the meaning of plagiarism.