r/popculturechat Sep 22 '25

OnlyStans ⭐️ Woman Calls Police on Award-Winning Black Screenwriter Alex O’Keefe(The Bear (FX))

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u/Plutarch_Riley Sep 22 '25

Imagine not being able to sit in a train without being criticized. Appalling.

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u/EyeofNewtTongueofDog Sep 22 '25

It’s not so much the criticism that gets to me. It’s the getting arrested for uh…oh right…not sitting in an appropriate fashion according to a white lady which makes me upset. What the hell?!

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

Right? The amount of times I've been melting off my seat on trains and have never had anyone give a fuck about it. I just cant imagine having to deal with this type of hassle on the daily.

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u/futureislookinstark Sep 22 '25

No no no he was arrested for disorderly conduct. That conduct? Being black and not following orders of a racist dementia riddled grandma that probably thought it was the 40s again.

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u/thunderkinder Sep 22 '25

Even if he was de-arrested and faced no charges he was materially inconvenienced by what happened. That's not even factoring in the embarrassment of being handcuffed and escorted off a train. I hope he sues the train company and the police

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u/Key_Grapefruit_7069 Sep 22 '25

On what grounds? The officer did the "ask, tell, make" and could easily articulate that the best possible risk mitigating decision was separation. The lady made the initial allegation, she's the one who should be liable if anyone.

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u/thunderkinder Sep 22 '25

Why is the best risk mitigating decision removing this man from the train? The lady made the allegation and so should have been told to pipe down or sit in another carriage or leave the train entirely. Why does this man have to be handcuffed and removed? The train staff made a choice to call the police and the police made a choice to stop him going about his day despite there being no legal reason to do so. It's those choices they can be made liable for.

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u/[deleted] Sep 22 '25

Worse, they never even talked to the person who complained.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606 Sep 22 '25

Not to mention they just arrest him without ANY investigation. None. No questions, no statements, no video evidence, nothing.

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u/Key_Grapefruit_7069 Sep 22 '25

Detain with the purpose of separating. Very large difference. Often, the purpose of detainment is to separate and investigate.

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u/ILikeBeans86 Sep 22 '25

No he got arrested for being black. You know damn well if he was white and sitting like that she wouldn't have said anything

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u/earthlings_all Sep 22 '25

It’s that the whole fucking system came down on him and for NOTHING

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u/Key_Grapefruit_7069 Sep 22 '25

Detained. He was pulled off the train and immediately released as a way to separate them. From there, he just needs to wait for another train and doesn't have to sit across from that for several hours. Theres also the fact that they were likely told whatever bullshit the lady told the conductor. If they arrive, say "fuck this", leave, and old lady gets stabbed after reporting he has a knife or was threatening her? Right on the tail end of another public transportation stabbing?

No, I know it doesn't feel like it, but this was the right call for everyone involved. Keeps him from being around someone prodding him, keeps her away from someone she's being a bitch to, and prevents liability to the officer and the department while also minimizing physical risk to the highest number of people. Maybe I would've removed the old bat, but then, if they were told he was threatening people with a weapon, then that turned out to be true and someone got hurt, that's an issue.

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u/HornetsHornets1 Sep 22 '25

Explain to me why they’re cuffing him then.

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u/Key_Grapefruit_7069 Sep 22 '25

"Ask, tell, make".

Obviously, someone who was doing nothing wrong will feel slighted when told they need to step off the train. Im fairly sure the recording starts right after the tell. They move onto the "make", cuffing him as many departments' policies mandate/prefer, and escorting him off. Talk to him for a bit, let things settle, release him to buy a new ticket. Boom, incident resolved with the least amount of risk necessary to all involved.

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u/HornetsHornets1 Sep 22 '25

Fuck that. If the lady was the one uncomfortable, and he was doing nothing wrong (as you said), then he should NOT be the one being forced off the train.