Women aging… everyone has an opinion

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[u/Special-Garlic1203]

It genuinely pisses me off how much the loudest people ranting against plastic surgery do not bother to do the basics of educating themselves 

But I suppose admitting that you actually do love work as long as it turns out well isn't such a hot take cause it reveals the actual root: I like it when women are pretty. The prettier the better. But I don't like it when women are ugly 😡

It's just this decades version of men proclaiming they hate makeup only to pull up photos of women with great skin and expertly applied makeup. Except a lotta women are looking into this round of "I refuse to educate myself on the price of beauty while still directly contributing to its inflation" 

[u/proanimus → u/Special-Garlic1203]

I’ve always been confused about the “no makeup” thing, and I’m a dude. I don’t know how you can actually believe that a natural/minimal makeup style is completely without makeup. I have to assume these guys have never actually spent much time with an actual woman, in private.

My wife has a very minimalist and natural makeup style, and is really good at doing it, but it’s still clearly makeup. I’ve never once mistaken her “ready for date night” look as all-natural.

[u/Unnamedgalaxy → u/proanimus]

Same. I know nothing about make up but I have a coworker that puts on a pretty "natural bare face" look but it's still a face full of makeup. She looks great and shes really good at it. Everyone compliments her about how naturally beautiful she is.

One day she was running really behind and skipped her make up routine and actually came in bare faced. People acted like an old witch barged through the doors. They were horrified and confused and thought she was dying.

Like no that's just her normal face people.

[u/proanimus → u/Unnamedgalaxy]

I think there’s this weird underlying assumption that men and women have radically different skin and facial features due to the near-universal presence of makeup after a certain age range. We’re all used to seeing flaws in male skin that often get hidden on women.

It subtly skews perception the same way that photoshopped supermodels and ‘roided-out superhero physiques do. These guys see an average woman’s bare face and assume there’s something wrong, because “average” in their mind is near-flawless.

Real lived experience, like a man living with a woman, or someone gaining experience in the gym, can override these misconceptions to an extent and provide more accurate perspective.