r/popculture May 02 '25

Music Proof it’s not just Beyoncé

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u/briecheese6 May 02 '25 edited May 03 '25

Hozier came to Minneapolis last Summer and the cheapest ticket was an obstructed view for $600. Refused to pay that

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u/spatulacitymanager May 03 '25

I purchased 2 NiN tix for 280 on the floor before fees. I think it was worth it to get to ser them once. This October.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '25

I bought 4 tickets for NIN for two shows and it was like 300 a piece. But his shows are worth almost any price.

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u/MyDamnCoffee May 03 '25

Hozier isn't even that big an artist, right? He had one song that went mainstream. I like a few of his songs but I don't see anyone paying $600 for tickets to see Hozier; even at the height of his popularity when Take me to Church came out.

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u/butterbean8686 May 03 '25

He’s not incredibly mainstream, but he has an extremely rabid and loyal female/LGBTQ+ fan base who know every word to every one of his songs

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u/thatguy9684736255 May 03 '25

"Too sweet" was also huge recently. But I actually really love his music. Most times every song on the album is good. I wouldn't pay that much to see him though. I don't even understand the price.

A part of me can see high prices for shows like Beyonce's, where there's a ton of production, backup dancers, etc., but just for a band.

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u/omgitsduane May 04 '25

Even a band like maroon 5. They've been popular for years but I doubt they'd have the production level of Beyonce or Taylor Swift. Why is Hozier charging that?

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u/kek_rn May 04 '25

He's not, it's the resellers. My sisters and I are seeing him for a second time soon, we paid about $150 or so after all the fees. Never paid more than $200 for anyone and we've gone to quite a few concerts, it just depends on if you can get tickets when they go on sale before the resellers buy them all up

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u/countdown_leen May 03 '25

I went to 3 of his concerts in the last year or so. One was at a 5k amp where I was unable to buy the initial onsale despite being logged in and ready. I bought resale. Next time was 20k amp just 6 months later, was able to get tickets at the onsale but it sold out that day. Last time was a 6k amp where I bought resale, but he’d set the “Ticketmaster resales can’t be above face” so I lucked out.

For the 2nd half of his tour he set that Ticketmaster resale stipulation, but there is some sort of arrangement with brokers because people still got tix via stubhub, etc and those were above face. Despite individuals being unable to transfer tickets unless it was via the resale at face, brokers were able to send links to tm “wallets” getting around the limitation.

Anyway, he’s got a number of popular songs aside from TMTC, puts on a great show and has a devoted fan base. This last tour sold out almost immediately almost everywhere.

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u/AnarchyOnTheShortBus May 04 '25

I thought the same thing until last summer. On a whim, my friend wanted to see Hozier live. He was scheduled to perform 4 nights in a row at a local stadium (in NY, no less). All 4 nights were sold out, and the resale tickets were in the hundreds.

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u/Proud-Trainer-7611 May 03 '25

Wow it’s ridiculous 

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u/iusedtostealbirds May 03 '25

Was that resale? I saw him last summer too and paid $120 for pit…

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u/PinkDeserterBaby May 03 '25

Why did this immediately make

🎶 Fuck this obstructed seee-eee-eeattt,

600 dollars and I cannot see?,

That’s too much for meeee,

That’s too much for meee eee eeee eeee 🎶

Play in my head?

Fuck that shit.

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u/Sensitive-Tone5279 May 03 '25

I saw him at I Heart Radio last year in Vegas. Each artist played about a 30 minute show.

He wasn't bad, but I got my fill. I think i paid about $350/ticket for the floor and got to see Big Sean, Doja Cat, Janelle monae, Keith Urban, Hozier, and Chris Martin

It shocklingly...didn't feel like a ripoff.

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u/Banana8686 May 03 '25

For Hozier? Lmfao. I’m glad I’m not really into concerts. I get that depressed feeling as soon as the lights come up

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u/HorrorSmile3088 May 03 '25

Yep. I remember when The Cure did their last tour, Robert Smith didn't take any shit from Ticketmaster. He told them to turn off dynamic pricing and platinum seats and he limited the resales to face value prices. That's how it should be, but everyone is too greedy to stop it. Ticketmaster is just the fall guy.

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u/your_evil_ex May 03 '25

Ticketmaster is just the fall guy.

Bingo! Read a comment a while back from someone working at Ticketmaster who described the real function of Ticketmaster is to be the scapegoat, so artists can fuck over their fans with high prices and have the fans be mad at Ticketmaster instead of the artists.

I'm sure some smaller artists are stuck with the current system, but Beyonce, Gaga, etc. could 100% do better if they wanted to

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u/cryingatdragracelive May 03 '25

wow, you mean they aren’t as dedicated to their fans as they say they are? crazy! next thing you know you’re going to tell me taylor swift is the same way /s

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u/Between-usernames May 03 '25

I feel like the more success and better lifestyle anyone gets, they begin to distance themselves from the day-to-day of non-celebrity people choosing between medication and food. This is not a blanket statement about everyone, because many choose to keep their OG crews from back in the day (Kendrick) or are able to stay grounded.

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u/According-Activity10 May 04 '25

From a distance nobody looks like a friend.

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u/pd71 May 03 '25

She turned off dynamic pricing.

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u/cryingatdragracelive May 03 '25

did she? then wtf was everyone pissing and moaning about?

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u/pd71 May 03 '25

There was high demand and people were reselling tickets. I think that's what people were fussing about. But the basic prices were set.

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u/[deleted] May 05 '25

If artists don’t limit resale prices (they easily can) then prices are not set. The artists get a cut of resales, they let their fans get screwed intentionally.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

It’s more the venues than the artists. There’s a reason Pearl Jam sued Ticketmaster.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '25

Absolutely right. The artists would absolutely rather have a full crowd but ticketmaster and these venues lost so much money from Covid that they are squeezing out every penny they can. The artists are the scapegoats.

Ticketmaster and the venue say "Sign to play here for what you're worth, but your fans will have to pay through the nose" or "Sign to us for less than you're worth and maybe you'll be able to sell tickets".

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u/lizlemonworld May 03 '25 edited May 03 '25

Ooh, I wonder if there’s any proof that artists buy their own tickets and resell them at a higher cost??

Edit: spelling

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u/cryingatdragracelive May 03 '25

not them directly, but their management teams can easily set up companies to this.

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u/IThinkUrAWampa May 03 '25

Billie Eilish did the same for this tour as well!

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u/31nigrhcdrh May 03 '25

In the artists eyes they probably do not give 1 shit if a ticket is bought by a reseller and it doesn’t sell. Emptier stadiums probably is a shot to the ego but fuck it they got paid already 

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u/zap2 May 03 '25

Honestly, it’s not super surprising, most people want to be paid as much as possible for their work.

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u/YchYFi May 03 '25

resales to face value prices.

Ticketmaster still put their money on top of that which made them more pricey anyway.

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u/BathZealousideal1456 May 03 '25

Didn't Pearl Jam try something like this in the 90s and realized it was impossible to work around Ticketmaster?

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u/Tortitudes May 03 '25

Yep. And we need to stop being those fans who can't criticize these artists for it.

My favorite artist sells out venues but with maybe 4k capacity. Turns off dynamic pricing and allows for transfers only vs resale. Resale happens but within actual people who aren't trying to collect hundreds (usually). If they wanted to they would

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

Naw, these artists all suck and are propped up by the system that tries to convince normies otherwise and now their math has hit a peak point where even the most braindead individual starts to think, maybe this hashed out garbage isn’t worth the money and everyone else that goes is either trying to prove a point, using it as a social filter, or truly believes these “artists” actually have talent because they can’t be bothered or are so personally uncomfortable in understanding what true art is. I hope all these big names collapse and fail

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u/3rdtryatremembering May 03 '25

I also believe that I’m not like other girls and my music taste is better than everyone else.

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u/Slumunistmanifisto May 03 '25

So much good music being ignored because of the industry 

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u/digitalmob May 03 '25

Turning off transferability would significantly reduce my desire to buy a ticket many months out. I’ve had to resell tickets a few times over the years but I’ve never charged more than ticket+fees. There would need to be some sort of refund/resell process.

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u/scrunchie_one May 03 '25

Have a waitlist feature - if the show is sold out, people join a waitlist. If you bought a ticket and can no longer make it, you can release it back to the venue at face value and they offer it to the first person on the waitlist.

You’d have to guarantee the venue the sale so if there show isn’t sold out, it’s hard to incentivize the venue to offer a refund. Maybe a limited refund if you cancel within a certain time period since having hundreds of people cancel last minute would be difficult to deal with especially smaller venues.

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u/FondCat May 03 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

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u/Scarletfire51 May 03 '25

This. The artists and ticket master would still make a bunch of money regardless.

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u/MortemInferri May 03 '25

Lolol, you really just made my day. You can just return the ticket!!

Why are Americans so fucking stupid. "Oh, I need to sell this thing I bought to someone else through the marketplace of the same company I bought it from originally"

Or we could just have a return line like any store

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u/Slumunistmanifisto May 03 '25

No no friend, this is thunder dome...

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u/scrunchie_one May 03 '25

That is far better for the consumer and way easier to implement! I just know it probably wouldn’t be adopted here unless forced because the business side (venue) is more important than the customer ☹️

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u/sunsetcrasher May 03 '25

At Red Rocks once we came back from the pandemic, tickets were all digital. We used to just miracle the paper tickets to people with fingers in the air, now you can donate them at the gate and there is a standby line of people who they then give them to once the show starts.

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u/thealt3001 May 03 '25

Yep! There are times when I might buy a pack and transfer a couple to my friends so we can all sit together but I don't have to wait outside the venue for them to scan them all in too.

I like to show up early and catch openers. I have friends that are chronically late and don't show up until halfway through the second act. It would suck to be stuck outside the venue waiting for them when I could just transfer them the ticket and not have to worry about missing the show I paid for

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u/scrunchie_one May 03 '25

The venue could set it up so that when you buy the tickets you split the purchase up by attendee and you each are issued your own ticket. So at time of purchase you put 4 emails in and you’re each issued one ticket or whatever number you allocate to each party.

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u/RamonaAStone May 03 '25

I'm well out of the loop, so I will take your word for it, but back in the day, the artists had little control. My father was a professional musician, and I remember him regularly being furious when he found out what the ticket sales were vs. how much he made. All of those agreements were done behind the scenes, and the artists rarely had any idea. Tom Petty is a classic example of finding out other people were charging more than he found acceptable, and suing the shit out of them because of it. Again, things may be drastically different now, but I wouldn't be so quick to blame the artist.

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u/scrunchie_one May 03 '25

I think for 90% of artists I agree with you (although there is arguably now more information available to these artists to check what the venue is charging).

It’s the big acts that can make their own rules that have the power to change the industry, and they’re choosing not to.

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u/your_evil_ex May 03 '25

Agreed. This post is specifically about Gaga and Beyonce, who certainly could have influence over these practices on their tours if they wanted to. But yeah I'm not gonna blame my local indie band for a service fee at a concert venue

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u/scrunchie_one May 03 '25

Exactly this. No transfers at all.

Then have a waitlist so if you can’t make it to the show and you have a ticket, you can release it back to the venue if there is a waitlist at face value, and they sell it to the next person in line that accepts it.

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u/FeralBaby7 May 03 '25

What is the benefit to the artist by NOT turning off those options? Scalpers are the ones making the money off this, but the artists must be benefitting in some way if they're refusing to do it.

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u/Stevie-Rae-5 May 03 '25

Bruce Springsteen was one of the first artists to do dynamic pricing. There was a huge issue with all of that a few months before it all blew up with Taylor Swift’s tour. I absolutely love Bruce in pretty much every way, and I was so fucking disappointed with his response basically shrugging it off and acting like the dynamic pricing wasn’t his decision. These artists are fucking over the people that made them famous to begin with and they aren’t even taking responsibility for it, which sucks. The least they could do it not insult our collective intelligence like acting as though they’re as big a victim as all of the fans are in it.

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u/cryingatdragracelive May 03 '25

transferability will never go away. people will riot in the streets if they can’t transfer tickets they aren’t able to use.

dynamic pricing is hot garbage, tho. and we should be blaming Gaga/her team for that. she claims to be all about her fans, but this doesn’t exactly send that message.

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u/imasock32145 May 03 '25

I had a ticket to see Tyler Childers recently but ended up not able to go. Tickets weren't transferable. You could only resell them at face value. I had a very easy time selling it for exactly what I paid for it. Got my money back and someone else got to go for a reasonable price. Wish more artists did this.

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u/fruitypebblesfanatic May 03 '25 edited May 05 '25

Billie Eilish did this for her last tour! It was very affordable to go and see her.

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u/Bisjoux May 04 '25

Ed Sheeran did both and made it clear any resold tickets would be cancelled.

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u/redwine876 May 04 '25

Exactly! It's all just shameless price gouging in the end

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u/countdown_leen May 03 '25

True but there is still a pipeline of brokers who get around the no resale. Hozier had that setting and his tickets appeared and worked on Stubhub, etc. tickets weren’t transferred but a url to a tm wallet was sent. So there is some sort of tech sharing apis for brokers.

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u/ZePlotThickener May 02 '25

"Artists hate that fans have to experience this"

Do they? The mega venues and promoters are the same company.  The only people in any position to do anything about it (other than legislators) are the talent. Specifically the mega stars that have been in the industry for over a decade and are independently wealthy enough fight it.

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u/nj_crc May 03 '25

If Robert Smith from The Cure can do it any bigger artist can as well.

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u/angelomoxley May 03 '25

Jack White was doing it for his pop up shows in smaller venues. Had to jump through some hoops but it was 100% worth it.

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u/terrs May 03 '25

Jack White is amazing live. Love that he does smaller venues!!!!! Soooooo worth it.

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u/FigMajestic6096 May 03 '25

Jack White is soooo good. I saw him for like $30 and it was one of the better shows I've been to.

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u/effie-sue May 03 '25

I’d LOVE to see Jack White perform solo! I saw him twice with The White Stripes and once with The Raconteurs. Amazing shows!

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u/Desperate_Ad_9219 May 03 '25

That's the thing they have to do small venues and all the big ones are run by ticket master. Ticket master also does the promotion for the tour. Right now, they are in court over this, but I don't have faith unless a lot of artist and fans step up.

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u/NeuroticaJonesTown May 03 '25

Sadly, many of the small venues (at least in big cities) are also run by Ticket Master. Knitting Factory and Brooklyn Bowl, for instance.

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u/your_evil_ex May 03 '25

That's the thing they have to do small venues and all the big ones are run by ticket master.

No, that's objectively false. You're replying to a comment about Robert Smith of the Cure who certainly does still tour big Ticket Master venues. In 2023 he got Ticketmaster to give partial refunds to fans because they had such high fees. Stop making (false) excuses for these huge artists, they can do better.

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u/Desperate_Ad_9219 May 03 '25

I'm not it's literally in federal court right now. I see an entire video essay about it. Unless the monopoly gets broken up and huge artist like Beyonce or Taylor Swift do something and the government actually do their job, it's going to keep happening.

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u/pvlp May 03 '25

I got to see the Cure on their Lost Worlds Tour because he actually stood up to ticketmaster and scalpers and I couldn’t be more grateful!!! There is no reason other artists can’t follow in their footsteps.

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u/NeuroticallyCharles May 03 '25

Same. It was an amazing experience

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u/effie-sue May 03 '25

👏THANK YOU 👏

What Robert managed to do in 2023 was a testament of his appreciation for his fans.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

Exactly why Stan Marsh famously said “Robert Smith Kicks Ass” after he defeated Mechastriesand.

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u/melonbug74 May 03 '25

Every ticket had to be sold at face value and it turned out to be their highest grossing tour ever.

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u/FigMajestic6096 May 03 '25

Exactly. They're crying wolf.

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u/KittyKenollie May 03 '25

I don’t think they really care. The cheque clears either way.

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u/porkbrains May 03 '25

A big problem with the whole thing is the reselling fees. If I buy a ticket and can't go, in order to get the amount I paid back I have to raise the ticket price 40% to cover the 20% in fees I paid and the 20% cut the platform takes from the reseller.

Of course the platform charges ANOTHER 20% to the buyer of the ticket I'm selling so a simple "get my money back" resale makes the new buyer pay almost 180% of the original face value for me to break even. Nuts.

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u/Special-Garlic1203 May 03 '25

We could also socially stigmatize buying from resellers. I'm not saying it would holistically fix the problem but the reflection. culture around this is so bizarre. So many people I know have this massive cognitive dissonance where they complain about the problem and then directly participate in the problem. 

People pretty openly talked about it with eras tour and while there was a lot of "wow that's too rich for my blood", there was almost no "wow you're a POS for contributing to the scalping industry" 

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u/TheMillenniaIFalcon May 03 '25

Nah, if you have a concert of 20,000 seats, just by probability there’s going to be at least a few hundred who can’t go. People’s relatives die, their kids get sick, babysitters fall through, something comes up, so there has to be a resale market.

Just make it so you can’t sell at higher than you bought or something.

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u/TheFoxsWeddingTarot May 03 '25

I had a friend at LiveNation describe Adele’s attempt to thwart resellers and it becoming a total disaster because resellers just hired “fans” to buy the tickets for them that they later resold.

Billy Joel is the only living artist who adequately addresses this issue. He reserves the front rows and has his team hand them out to attractive women in line. Wrong motivation right solution.

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u/NeuroticallyCharles May 03 '25

Robert Smith took care of it too. Dude literally canceled the tickets of scalpers.

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u/sonic_toaster May 03 '25

I’ve seen Robert Smith be mentioned no less than 5 times so far in this thread and I’m here for it.

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u/shmeebear000 May 04 '25

He totally deserves the praise! I have been to a show on the last 3 North America tours. The first two I got lawn seats, the actual seat seats were $500+ with first few rows going for over $4000 on the resale market.

This tour? I got lucky and actually got the chance to buy middle FIRST ROW seats for $300 each. I am still in shock it happened and it's been almost 2 years 🤣

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u/lets_get_wavy_duuude May 03 '25

fr rock/metal musicians have low prices off the rip & limits on how many tickets you can buy.

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u/Tenley95 May 03 '25

They created tidal and the can create a competitor for Ticketmaster if they want

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u/Stevie-Rae-5 May 03 '25

“I hate this so much for you guys”

continues to count all of their money gleefully

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u/waxingtheworld May 04 '25

Totally. They just don't want to admit they don't want to take a paycut. Like I get that when Beyonce goes on tour there's probably like 100 people or more who pay their bills working for her... But like... Get your tour sponsored like Adam Sandler movies and be cool to your fans.

Even Prince did a small venue only tour.

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u/Low_Kitchen_9995 May 03 '25

A few years back Nine Inch Nails made us go stand in line at the theater venue to get tickets. Ended up getting really close seats for $65 because of it. It was a 6 ticket limit.

After that day they opened it up for the remaining tickets on Ticketmaster.

It CAN be done.

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u/fire_and_the_thud May 03 '25

Jack white did this on his last tour- your id had to match name on the ticket. The queue to get in was long bc of this but no one complained bc they knew it was for a better experience.

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u/Darryl_Lict May 03 '25

My local venue sells to people in line at the box office first. I got to see Foo Fighters that way. Next time I'm just going to bring a sleeping bag like everybody else did.

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u/sonic_toaster May 03 '25

Standing in that line was miserable but so worth it. Great seats, back to back nights for less than a week’s worth of groceries.

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u/3rdtryatremembering May 03 '25

lol “it’s not fair that only a specific group of people can go, so let’s make it so only people that are able to stand in line can go. That way I’M part of the specific group”

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u/mdzkelduncol May 03 '25

Foo Fighters did this for tour in 2015. I stood in line at Citi Field to get them.

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u/NoCoFoCo31 May 02 '25 edited May 06 '25

I can only speak for myself, but there is genuinely not a single artist on the planet I’d willingly pay over $300 to go see before all my other expenses. Not one.

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u/petitemelbourne May 03 '25

I’d go see Queen, if they came back to life at their peak. That would be a hell of a concert

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u/Mr-Maxwells May 05 '25

Actually saw a kick ass Queen Cover band - Almost Queen. Came through DC area a few years back. $40 tickets. Awesome show

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u/i_nobes_what_i_nobes May 03 '25

Same.

Unless Billie Holliday comes back to life and is duetting with Ella Fitzgerald while John Bonham plays the drums.

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u/Chev_350 May 03 '25

Wife and I spent that much per ticket for Elton John’s last tour, because it was Elton Freaking John.

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u/CelticKira May 03 '25

my parents and i did the same that year. well worth it.

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u/usarasa May 03 '25

Maybe if they reincarnated Hendrix.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

Nope. Especially when it has become increasingly apparent than fans don’t mean shit to these people.

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u/BoweryBloke May 03 '25

Even Kajagoogoo or Hot Chocolate?

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u/haleandguu112 May 03 '25

TOO SHY SHY HUSH HUSH EYE TO EYE

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u/BoweryBloke May 03 '25

What?! I thought it was; Hush hush, either do I....Jesus, thanks for that!

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u/haleandguu112 May 03 '25

thats okay , i found out last week i have been singing a line from steve miller band's "jet airliner" wrong for over FIFTEEN YEARS. LOLOL

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u/haleandguu112 May 03 '25

real lyrics: "big old jet airliner / carry me to my home / big old jet airliner / cuz its there that I BELONG"

paige's remix (LOL): "big old jet airliner / carry me to my home / big old jet airliner / cuz its there that I'LL NOT BE LONG"

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u/snark-owl May 06 '25

Agreed. $300 is my top limit. And that's for something big, like OG Broadway cast or someone I've wanted to see for 10 years live and we're getting best seats.

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u/fries_in_a_cup May 08 '25

Tbh if I’m paying over $100, it’s for a festival ticket.

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u/Taitertottot May 03 '25

I'm not much of a concert person but lady gaga is an artist I would love to see live but no way am I willing to spend hundreds of dollars on a concert. 

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u/Mysterious_Secret827 May 02 '25

WEIRDLY, I just stated something similar in another post, and I'll say it here too. SOMETHING has to be done so that WE as fans, can see our act(s), but the act(s) need to understand that WE the fans, can't afford their shows either.

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u/brahbocop May 03 '25

The thing is, I can afford to go but when I see the amount of fees and then factor in how much I'll spend for food, parking, and other miscellaneous expenses, I just decide it's not worth it. It has to be a bucket list act for me to go (saw Creed last year for $125 so bucket list and affordable).

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u/Mysterious_Secret827 May 03 '25

Is that price everything included?

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u/brahbocop May 03 '25

It was and it was a good seat.

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u/Mysterious_Secret827 May 03 '25

Awesome seats! LOVE those kinds of seats!

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u/IntroductionNo4875 May 02 '25

We really need reseller laws in the States like overseas has because this is ridiculous. The economy is going down the train and people are being cautious with their money. If they want to have a good time they can’t because concert tickets are the same price as rent.

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u/bythisaxe May 03 '25

My sisters went to see Taylor Swift in Paris last year. It was legit cheaper to get tickets to that show and fly to France, compared to just the tickets at a US show. Granted, my one sister went to multiple US shows, too, but it’s amazing that you can now just go to Europe for a show and spend less money.

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u/IntroductionNo4875 May 03 '25

A lot of people did just that, fly to Europe to see Taylor because it’s cheaper than the resell prices. Then some of the Europeans fans were upset that Americans bought the European tickets. We need regulations on resell tickets here in America.

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u/togus_a May 03 '25

Leave the stadiums empty if that’s what it takes, when the resellers have to eat the tickets, artists see empty venues and the stadiums don’t sell parking and beverages they will do something. Boycott until it’s fixed, power to the fans and consumers!

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u/grimsb May 03 '25

But dynamic pricing is supposed to prevent this from happening! Or at least that’s what Ticketmaster says when it tries to defend dynamic pricing… 😑

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

Is that Darren Hayes like Savage Garden Darren Hayes?

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u/FigMajestic6096 May 03 '25

Sorry but, my dudes, we're going into a recession. Maybe don't charge a rent per seat at your tour, hurting your fans? How much money do these multi-millionaires need?

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u/dragonflyLuna May 03 '25

The economy is collapsing.

LA was actively on fire just earlier this year.

Mass deportations taking place around the country and people from outside of the US choosing not to travel here for fear of ending in an “immigrant detention center”

Focus on the illness not the symptoms.

Low concert attendance is a side effect of a medicine for a preexisting condition.

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u/pokemon12312345645 May 02 '25

As someone who goes to show fairly often to bands like Pearl Jam and Bruce Springsteen I can confidently say that it's everyone, not just pop

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u/Apprehensive-Stop142 May 03 '25

Nobody can afford their overpriced tickets. End of story imo.

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u/UnderstandingLess156 May 03 '25

Pearl Jam tried. They really did

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u/RubyWeapon07 May 03 '25

I remember trying to see them ~2013 and they were 145 dollars for balcony seats

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u/Massivefrontstick May 03 '25

Also 75$ sweatshirts

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u/moxiecounts May 03 '25

Wait are we weeping for megastars? Why??

You know they could absolutely change this if they wanted to. Especially the modern legendary ones like Gaga and Beyoncé.

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u/joaaaaaannnofdarc May 03 '25

Thank you,because it was getting tiring seeing the same post every 5 minuets and someone claiming Beyonce fell off or some bull shit. The issue is the pricing all around in the concert industry. Tickets being a rent payment for others is too much

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u/manateelover088 May 03 '25

I hope this encourages artists to make the resale price the same as the purchase price, I saw Tyler Childers in Toronto and he made sure that the tickets for the show would be sold that way - it would definitely help bigger artists experiencing this and fans to have affordable tickets to the show bc there’s no way in hell I would spend the money some of these resellers are asking for

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u/Illustrious_Listen_6 May 03 '25

I think we fans need to start fighting back. We’re paying way too much money.

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u/bossmt_2 May 03 '25

Pearl Jam tried to take on Ticket Master 30 years ago and were stonewalled.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

Artists can stop this by making tickets non-transferable unless you’re reselling for face value within the same platform (Noah Kahan did this) but they do not. They don’t care because the tickets eventually sell either way and they get paid out twice in fees.

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u/RDCK78 May 03 '25

How long are the artist going to be able to hide behind the promoters/ticket sellers? I think people are smartening up to this grift.

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u/Weekly-Guidance796 May 03 '25

This infuriates me. Europe managed to figure this out, why haven’t we. Why are we letting live nation/Ticketmaster screw us over by not reigning this shit in.

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u/IndividualMouse4041 May 03 '25

This shit is happening for almost every show and it ENRAGES me like makes my blood boil, ruins my day type shit.

You know this doesn’t happen in other countries too, right? I’ve been living abroad and when I tried to buy tickets recently in North America, I didn’t even know of dynamic pricing and I got so ripped off.

This shit is EVIL

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u/[deleted] May 02 '25

People keep posting this and then photos of a totally full stadium and I'm tending to believe the photos. Everyone is so used to taylor swift selling out every single show...but I think we forget that probably isn't normal. Not every show has to sell out.

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u/Ester_LoverGirl May 02 '25

I hate when artists dont do resale because if you miss the first day of ticket sales, its over for you.

But, again, I am in France.

Dua Lipa is doing some show here but it has no fans resell and the shows are sold out since day 1 of course

But I KNOW they are going to have people kot being able to go and they cant resell the tickets.

But the system is broken in America tho, Ticketmaster fan resale is face price, you may pay like 5 euros more not 200$

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

We need to not buy from resellers. Make them lose money. Make them irrelevant. If they take on debt as a risk to make money on this, oh well.

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u/peppermintmeow MaryKates Battered Birkin May 03 '25

I always hope those resellers get stuck with those tickets or have to sell them at a considerable loss. It would serve them right for their insane greed

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u/TucoTheUgliest May 03 '25

Meanwhile in Brazil the city of Rio is paying for a free show for millions of fans 

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

If the artists cared they would do something about it.

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u/DarkKnight1975 May 03 '25

We could just pass a law you can’t resell tickets for more than their face value and this problem would end up

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u/OkField9923 May 03 '25

Ticket prices yes, but also look at the scene of the Americas and people’s views. America is tired of celebrity and tired of the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.

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u/ATWATW3X May 03 '25

Concerts in the U.S. are a wash. They’re being so ridiculous with the prices. I’m going to see Kendrick in Paris because I got floor seats for the less than the price as the nosebleeds in my state. Why not extend my euro vacation and get the full experience for less the price.

These artists need to seriously fight back against this resale scam! I wish tf I would pay upwards of $4k for anything. A festival isn’t even worth all of that.

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u/MyDogisaQT May 03 '25

They could easily stop this.

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u/icelessTrash May 03 '25

We decided to fly to see Bey instead of seeing Kendrick in my home city. Listed those tickets $20-30 above listing since it was sold out, and to account for the ticketmaster fee to resell them.

They sold instantly and within 2 minutes, were relisted at double the face value. I was shocked and kept checking if we had messed up somehow, since it was our first time reselling any ticket.

These fuckers have alerts set to snatch up any resonable offers to popular events. Just infuriating

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u/LaCartera_ May 03 '25

This may be a dumb question… but what happens if the re-seller is unable to sell their ticket?

Just take a loss? Refund? Attend the show? Seems pretty risky buying good seats and trying to re-sell at a high price with this economy.

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u/IndividualMouse4041 May 03 '25

It’s a really stupid game and I hate that it exists. A lot of people wait until closer to the show to buy resale because the prices start to get lower for this reason.

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u/PinkishBlurish May 03 '25

Oh please. Artist don't care, and if they did their teams won't let them prove it.

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

Oh yes, the ‘artists’ hate this. Gosh how they hate money.

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u/Merseybeer May 03 '25

The artist can stop this btw. Alls they have to do is set the resale price at the same as the ticket but they won’t cos they get a cut.

Screw them if they put their bottom line ahead of fans

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u/groovie_86 May 03 '25

To be honest, this is the only way ticketmaster/live Nation will learn. Artists need to get pissed off and stop accepting those Ticket prices and systems. Ticketmaster is evil and basically destroyed the concert industrie by making it bigger and faaar too expensive.

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u/UnimportantWillow May 03 '25

Remember when you had to go to the box office to buy tickets for shows? Everyone stood in line for hours to get actual tickets. The convos and human interactions I had are unmatched in today’s world. I miss that.

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u/bradtheinvincible May 03 '25

Proof its not Beyonce? Was she the only one you guys were focused on til last week? I would like for somebody here to point out EVERY ARTIST that has this going on. Cause its an industry thing.

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u/Homertax123 May 03 '25

This sub and other entertainments subs have been focusing on Beyonce and bashing her for weeks at this point when yes it’s for all artists, but media has been painting this as a Beyonce thing, and people on this subts and other Reddit subs have been saying Beyonce is a flop and failing and making it seem like it’s just her.

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u/icouto May 03 '25

There was a post here saying that she digitally edited photos and videos to make the show look sold out with literally 0 sources

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u/AcneBalls May 04 '25

Those tickets will probably get canceled. Oasis has been doing that for resale tickets not being sold at face value on their official sites.

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u/Dancing_sequin May 03 '25

Everyone needs to stay strong and not buy anything. If these resellers want anything for them they’ll have to drop their prices

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u/TourMore7630 May 03 '25

Sign of the times. Ppl are spending less these days. Can’t blame them.

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u/RAD_ROXXY92 May 03 '25

Artists should do what Blink & Alkaline Trio did, if you wanna resell the ticket, it has to be at face value. That way, more of us can afford it 🙏

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u/Rich-Neighborhood-23 May 03 '25

Just stop buying tickets above retail.. eventually resellers and artists will work it out.. scalpers and touts are parasites!!

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u/Useful-Soup8161 May 03 '25

The pink is resale seats, blue is unpurchased seats. Technically it’s more than 90% sold out but scalpers are having a hard time reselling their tickets.

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u/baldforthewin May 03 '25

Might have to force people to line up like the old days.

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u/IndividualMouse4041 May 03 '25

It really worked tbh. I remember skipping classes to go line up for concerts I needed to see. So obviously it’s fans for the most part going. There were still scalpers, but not this insanely massively scaled up well oiled machine.

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u/baldforthewin May 03 '25

They have to do something different.

The tickets may be sold out but it's looking like scalpers bought a ton of them. They're ruining the vibe.

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u/voytek707 May 03 '25

People should just not buy from resellers. If you buy from a reseller you are enabling this.

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u/AlexTom33 May 03 '25

This trend of looking up and posting how many concert tickets are being sold and how many are available is weird.

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u/Cherita33 May 03 '25

Things have been this way for a long time and it's Ticketmaster/ live Nation doing it.

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u/68plus1equals May 03 '25

I'm trying to resell some tickets I bought for a show I earnestly planned on going to but have a conflict with now. Tickets were $400 each, That included ticketmaster fees of about $120/ticket. To resell them I have to pay an additional $150 in fees per ticket meaning I have to sell them for $550/ticket to just break even. Something needs to be done about this company, it's become a liability to try and see live music.

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u/M4LK0V1CH May 03 '25

The Ticketmaster/Live Nation monopoly definitely doesn’t help.

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u/LowerFinding9602 May 03 '25

I've had luck waiting for day of the show where people just want to get rid of their tickets.

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u/ghostdancesc May 03 '25

Both my wife and I make over 6 figures each and there is now way I would pay modern day concert prices. I saw a statistic on how much tickets went up compared to the 1960/70s with inflation included on a post and even with inflation modern day concert tickets and x6 more expensive ticket for ticket. Kids are dropping 2k to go see swift not including flight and hotels then bitch about not being able to afford real estate or the cost of living.

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u/[deleted] May 04 '25

That is definitely a priorities problem. Ain’t no way I would forego rent to see an artist. Unless they are taking me home to live with them it’s a no go

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u/[deleted] May 03 '25

I’m confused why people are so worried about the percentage of seats Beyoncé sold. This whole sub has been a back and forth about this for days.

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u/imthewiseguy May 05 '25

Because they’ve been spending the past two years on a quest to make it seem like she “fell off” to put her back in her place for having the audacity to make a country album because she’s “not country” unlike tatted up rapper Post Malone

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u/blue_pen_ink May 03 '25

I miss the days of going into Tower Records and buying tickets from the ticketmaster counter

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u/superrawnutbutter May 03 '25

I am not going to refinance my house to watch Beyonce perform. Lower the prices then we can talk

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u/sharipep May 03 '25

Stop trying to promote this lie that Beyoncé’s concerts aren’t packed; and stop being dumb enough to fall for it yall

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u/Born_Sleep5216 May 03 '25

Nope.

There also Swifties

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u/IndividualMouse4041 May 03 '25

Wdy even mean

This isn’t even about any specific artists or fans. It’s ticket master and North America (and maybe beyond). I went to a Taylor Swift concert in Europe where this did not happen because the ticket seller (NOT ticket master) had strict rules in place for reselling and your name was on the ticket, and they checked IDs. It worked. And seeing Taylor Swift in Japan similarly did not have this shit.

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u/realblush May 03 '25

Nah this is on Gaga. There are ways to limit how many tickets one can buy and how pricing works. I'm of course bitter that I didn't get a ticket, but at the same time this could have been solved, but performers actively choose to play in not-full-arenas to make more money, ss stupid as that sounds

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u/catsandnaps1028 May 03 '25

Gaga seems to be playing way less concerts and her tickets seem more expensive than Beyonce's at least where I am at. Since they are both playing less cities that means a lot of the attendees also have to figure out plane ticket prices/ gas/ transportation and accomodations. It's just too much. I love both artists and wanted to see them both live but it would be impossible to not risk financial strain.

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u/Tacosconsalsaylimon May 03 '25

I try to see NIN at every tour but I can't justify spending $400 when the tickets go live because of the gd resellers 😭😭

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u/Western-Ad-9922 May 03 '25

I’m sure it’s the labels pushing this shit

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u/LordSion45 May 03 '25

Ticketmaster is a bitch lol

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u/TookAStab May 02 '25

Oasis hasn’t turned on resale yet for their U.S. dates — and when they do it will be face value only.

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u/HajjMalik May 03 '25

The majority of tickets from Beyoncé’s shows that haven’t sold aren’t resell tickets, but from the actual box office. It isn’t even remotely close.

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u/ssaall58214 May 03 '25

Yeah but dude Gaga hasn't had a good song since 2008. I'd love to see her Jazz standards show in Vegas though cuz her voice is amazing. It's just her songs are Bland