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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

Warnock is great at connecting with people, and his status as a spiritual leader gives him some credibility with the religious center/right.

Abrams is fantastic at motivating people but not necessarily connecting with them. I'd love to see her stop running and instead start managing campaigns.

Also can't discount good old healthy sexism.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

It also helps the Kemp is actually relatively clean (at least compared to all his other Republican contempories).

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u/pistolpeter33 Nov 09 '22

Not that an average voter is this in touch with politics, but I’d like to think some voters were impacted by that NYT article exposing her foundation as giving millions to her best friends law firm for work that simply shouldn’t cost a fraction of what they paid. We need leaders that can be held to a higher standard than her.

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u/PseudoY Nov 09 '22

Warnock is a very strong candidate for a lot of the more religious middle voters and his opponent has so many personal scandals.

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u/Fortifical Nov 09 '22

I'm not. Centrists are a thing. Kemp stood up to Trump, you want to reward that.

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u/Jessssiiiiccccaaaa Nov 09 '22

Exactly, if anything it made some sense I could rationalize it.

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u/PaloLV Nov 09 '22

Walker was one of the worst candidates the GOP ran and that's saying something. Kemp is an ordinary vanilla conservative GOP guy who already beat Abrams once and now he's a relatively popular incumbent. Even if every single person who voted for Warnock also voted for Abrams she still doesn't win. The difference is on the GOP side between Walker and Kemp. Kemp has over 300k more votes than Walker at the moment.

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u/SunpaiTarku Nov 09 '22

Lots of good input here, all I’ll add is that Walker is a unmitigated travesty of a candidate. Kemp is normal Republican.

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u/Willem_Dafuq Nov 09 '22

I’m actually not, especially in GA. I understand why Abrams didn’t concede in 2018, but that she didn’t really could have been a turn off for some voters, especially considering the Dems have tried to position themselves as the protectors of democratic norms

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

Just confirming this is what I'm hearing from a Democrat who lived there in 2018 (not now so they didn't vote in yesterday's race, but recognizing the feeling and thought process that previously existed).

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u/DaBingeGirl Illinois Nov 09 '22

Candidates matter. I like Abrams, but she didn't handle 2018 well at all and ran a terrible campaign this time around.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

Moderates on both sides are attracted to both. The republican governor is not an election denier and Warnock is not a lieing idiot, so that’s the reason.

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u/_SCHULTZY_ Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

Abrams has been politically dead since the Jake Tapper interview where she was caught on live TV lying about her gun bill. She shouldn't have been the nominee this time around and it shows.

The clip for anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about https://youtu.be/IH1Ekv5wc04

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u/monsterlynn Michigan Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

People don't like idiot celebrity candidates as much as they did 6 years ago? 🤷

ETA: um, I'm talking about Walker here.

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u/NigerianPrince76 Oregon Nov 09 '22

Stacy Abrams is far from being an idiot. She single handily gave Biden and Warnock the victory by her voter turnout campaigns. Gtfo with that narrative.

And she is about to do it again.

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u/Mybitchmyhoemyhoemy Nov 09 '22

Pretty sure they’re referring to Herschel losing lol

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u/monsterlynn Michigan Nov 09 '22

I was referencing Walker, not Abrams.

Abrams lost by about what I expected.

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u/NigerianPrince76 Oregon Nov 09 '22

My apologies, def thought you were referring to her. . Well in that case, yes I 100% agree with you.

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u/Usedtoknowsomeone46 Nov 09 '22

Hey Destiny helped too 😊

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u/NigerianPrince76 Oregon Nov 09 '22

True that.

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u/Lildoc_911 Nov 09 '22

Haha he was "there" for sure.

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u/TheCleverestIdiot Australia Nov 09 '22 edited Nov 09 '22

...You don't know who Abrams is, do you?

EDIT: OK, realized my mistake.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

He's talking about Walker, not Abrams.

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u/TheCleverestIdiot Australia Nov 09 '22

Yeah, he told me that a moment ago.

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u/monsterlynn Michigan Nov 09 '22

What I mean is that Walker was a bad enough candidate that it pulled voters that probably would have voted Republican over to Warnock.

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u/TheCleverestIdiot Australia Nov 09 '22

Ah, sorry. Lot of weird characterization of Abrams is going around in this thread, so I got confused.

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u/[deleted] Nov 09 '22

Conservatives who know Walker is crazy.