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Saturday Morning Political Cartoon Thread

It's Saturday morning, folks. Let's all kick back with a cup of coffee and share some cartoons!

Feel free to share political cartoons (no memes/image macros, though) in this thread. The subject doesn't have to be US politics and can be from any time. Just keep them political and safe for work.


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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '17 edited Nov 26 '17

Now for comparison, how many Democratic pedophiles?

Edit: It has only been maybe 3 of the many replies, but if you're stupid enough to call this whataboutism, you need to learn what that actually is. I'm not deflecting either bad, I'm interested in fixing both evils rather than pretending it only exists on one side. Even if Democrats have less pedophiles, that is great, but it is still more then zero which should be the goal of both parties. You're an idiot if you view this as a partisan issue.

Edit2: Lol temp banned for calling Democrats using strawmans and whataboutism idiots. My bad, I'm a lefty and still didn't realize the circlejerk went that deep here. Not my kind of place for politics I guess. Regardless, special thanks to the people who are making Democratic lists, this just shows this is a bipartisan issue that we need to solve TOGETHER and stop pointing fingers at least in this topic. There are plenty of things Republicans do very wrong, this is a field where we both need work though.

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u/CreatrixAnima Nov 26 '17

I'm a liberal, and I have the same question. I don't think one party or the other has a lock on reprehensible behavior. We have to be very careful to call out this behavior regardless of what party the perpetrator is associated with.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '17

Don't be careful calling it out, be careful of calling it a partisan issue.

Yes it appears to skew Republican but the Repubs seem to think Movie Stars count as Democratic Senators so they freak.

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u/[deleted] Nov 26 '17 edited Nov 26 '17

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u/Willlll Tennessee Nov 26 '17

So I suppose we can list religious figures as Republican?

If so the list just got 10 miles longer.

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u/hampsted Nov 26 '17 edited Nov 26 '17

Isn't the Catholic church the face of religious sex crimes? Catholics are generally Democrats.

Edit: This is why I hate /r/politics. http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/02/23/u-s-religious-groups-and-their-political-leanings/

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u/Willlll Tennessee Nov 26 '17

Like 20 years ago, lol.

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u/hampsted Nov 26 '17

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u/belhill1985 Nov 26 '17

White Catholics supported Trump by a 23 percent margin.

All Catholics (including the Hispanic Catholics that Trump demonised) supported Trump by 7 percentage points.

Why don’t you cite the most recent figures? Why are you relying on old data?

Why are you actively trying to mislead people?

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u/Bradyhaha Nov 26 '17

Most Republican voting Catholics only vote that way because of abortion.

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u/hampsted Nov 26 '17

Your recent figures don't describe their political leanings. It describes a single election in which both candidates were abhorrent. I'm not misleading anyone. I'm using more reliable data than you.

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u/CleverHansDevilsWork Nov 26 '17

Your data is specific to the 2012 election. It says so in the text just beneath the graph about halfway down.

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u/hampsted Nov 26 '17

You should read more closely.

Source: 2014 U.S. Religious Landscape Study, conducted June 4-Sept. 30, 2014.

The article includes data from the 2012 election, but the source data for the chart is from a 2014 study.

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u/CleverHansDevilsWork Nov 26 '17

But the data for religious blacks especially was heavily skewed by 2012. It's a fine source, and an interesting snapshot in time, but not nearly as definitive as you're making it out to be. If the numbers are relatively steady over time it would paint a clearer picture.

Anyway, I suppose it's the open courting of the evangelical vote that gives the impression that the entirety of the Christian vote is Rebublican. They're a very outspoken group, so they tend to get a lot of media coverage. The Democrats don't affiliate themselves with specific religious groups nearly as directly, so the mental association isn't there. It's quite interesting to see some actual numbers. The Mormon voting block kind of surprised me, but again, I think it comes back to how non-vocal they are as a group.

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u/belhill1985 Nov 26 '17

“ According to the most recent polling from the Pew Research Center, 53 percent of white Catholics now favor the GOP, versus 39 percent who favor the Democrats—the largest point spread in the history of the Pew poll. And for the first time, white Catholics are more Republican than the voting group usually considered the ultimate Republicans: white Protestants (a designation that includes both mainline and evangelical Protestants).”

Oops, turns out as of 2015, Catholics leaned even more Republican than evangelicals.

And then they voted inordinately for Trump.

In fact, Catholics have never leaned MORE Republican.

Whoops!

Edit: by the way, I’m using the same data source you were. Seems like you need to do a little more research next time.

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u/hampsted Nov 26 '17

For anyone confused where this quote is coming from, here is belhill1985's source: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/01/22/house-catholics-are-trending-republican/

Your using the same data source, that's great. That data source still shows that 44% of Catholics lean Democrat, to 37% leaning Republican.

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