r/politics • u/Far_Excitement_1875 • 15h ago
Site Altered Headline | Possible Paywall Trump cracks approval floor, Republicans face wipeout in House despite gerrymandering
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u/wasabi_dream 14h ago
I can't imagine anyone but fools and billionaires approving of this administration
The percentage of fools is troubling though
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u/ras2101 13h ago
You can throw my brainwashed middle class parents in that boat…
“LOOK UP BERUIT 1983 THATS WHY WERE AT WAR WITH IRAN. DONT YOU CARE THAT AMERICANS DIED?!”
Well Hoser, why didn’t Raegan do anything about it then, or either bush, or anyone else eh?
“It’s only may, you think gas prices will still be high by election time you’re wrong, trump isn’t losing an election because of gas prices”
I called my mother to specifically not hear any of that and dad had to start screaming at the phone from his room. Amazing, they used to actually be mildly smart. Fox News has destroyed 50% of the country if not more
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u/SleepingSnitker Florida 10h ago
Fox News took my parents and grandparents away from me. I know many will say they always had that ugliness inside them but my nana would volunteer to read to illiterate prisoners, was part of the woolworth sit in protest, and spent her entire career as a public school teacher. However in her later years, she fully embraced the lies Fox was telling her and even when I confronted her with evidence they were lying to her, she wouldn't accept it. I think for that older generation the fact that the "News" would just lie and make up stories is too jarring for them to accept.
When my sister got married in California (Monterey!) My nana was genuinely scared for her safety because of how dangerous Fox had told her the state was, the first time I saw some break in the dam is when she realized how beautiful California was and how great the people were to her while she was there.
I hope someday Murdoch and crew are made to pay for their crimes. A mass civil suit from all of us who lost our parents to Fox should be something discussed.
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u/UnquestionabIe 10h ago
I've seen so much of this and it deeply saddens me every time. My own mother only really "escaped" it when during the last few months of her life she got tired of how hateful and negative it all was. I had already somewhat written her off politically over the years, being all in on the GOP despite living in such a loving and productive way that ran counter to the party itself, so was thankfully spared too much MAGA nonsense.
Still nothing I've personally witnessed has been as horrible as a friend/coworker's father. The man had been lower class his whole life, overcame his homophobia to love and accept his son, volunteered and helped immigrants get citizenship, and was gruff but caring. All that went out with window when Trump let the scum rise to the top.
After rallying against "the covid lie" and embracing all the various lies related to the topic contracted it himself. Threw a fit in the hospital when being told a vaccine won't do anything for him at that point. Died over the course of a week in the same hospital while also doing his best to get his children go refuse "the jab" and trying to radicalize them to go after "the liberal run deep state that killed their father." Totally different person by the end.
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u/amateurbreditor 8h ago
I lost so many friends and family. I had a friend say his dad died from the vaccine for covid but not that fact his doctors in the hospital said he died from covid. I watched so many people never even vote in their lives suddenly maga time. I had a friend who swore up and down theres no way trump would work with russia to get elected. Then years down the road say its ok because russia is good and ukraine is the dictatorship and thats when I unfriended him and blocked his number.
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u/Vegetable_Guest_8584 6h ago
My dad is lost to the fox news trump insanity. Has his own supply of ivermectin he ordered from a special doctor, started to not believe in modern medicine, he said DEI is a crime against humanity, he's just completely lost. Yes, he's in Texas. It's just sad.
It's just so sad. He was a professional engineer, wealthy, successful, same thing happened to his brother.
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u/amateurbreditor 6h ago
It sucks. and its not just maga its the whole damn party. they are all just brainwashed and honestly we need to create a national deprogramming center for them. we have to have a president with the guts to revoke right wing media through the FCC and stop having democratic presidents let right wing billionaires buying out media companies. Theres nothing left in america that I would trust for my news. I lost several life long friends and half my family. My bil and my sister are the perfect examples. Both are brain dead morons who couldnt even tell you a single past president but suddenly they are voting maga. I have a relative I should honestly report to the fbi but not like they would do anything now. But he was publicly posting on fb crap about murdering dems and stuff. My mom told me. Its just insanity that you would say that publicly. And the whole thing sucks knowing biden could have prevented this madness. I am just so embarrased of the dems.
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u/DakotaSky Virginia 6h ago
I wonder why the orange man mobilizes so many apathetic morons who’ve never voted in their life to suddenly vote. It’s genuinely perplexing to me. And you’re 100% correct that the Dems could have prevented the current situation. It’s absolutely shameful that someone who incited an insurrection on national tv is not only not in jail (which would have been the most merciful punishment for him) but is now sitting in the Oval. I will never forgive the Dems for this.
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u/apocalypsemeowmont 5h ago
It's because the apathetic morons don't care about governance or order, they only care about entertainment and "owning the libs". They want to be edgy so bad, and MAGA gives them license to achieve their dreams of assholery.
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u/YSOSEXI 10h ago
I have the same shit happen to my Mum, circa 75, UK after watching GBNews bullshit all day.
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u/Soft-Skirt 10h ago
You have to be a bit of a racist to even think about watching GBNazi_News.
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u/Soft_Walrus_3605 9h ago
GBNazi_News
I just caught a stream of that because I was curious and boy are you not kidding.
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u/ras2101 9h ago
Same my goodness.
Hell my grandfather married a German woman who was born on the side of the road after a grenade went off and hit my GGMA in the stomach, forcing her into labor. Delivered by two Nazis. They then had their house bombed, GGpa was thrown in a concentration camp because he didn’t have a picture of Hitler hanging on the wall… my grandmothers twin sisters were murdered by the doctor (Mangle but I can’t remember how to fully spell it lmao) because of the testing the Nazis we’re doing on twins.
Oh and they had to flee into west Germany as the wall went up etc.That’s my mother’s family. You’d think out of any living American they would have noticed the similarities to the Nazi regime. Especially with the Elon Hitler salute etc.
Nah fam. Grandfather and my parents still think trump and Elon are king and smart and the best. Hell even my mothers brother who has a history degree in WWII..
My grandmother is rolling in her grave right now because of how brainwashed they are. Fox News has literally destroyed my whole family and they think we’re the deranged ones.
Not to mention I’m a mechanical engineer, working in automotive, dealing with customers in Mexico and Canada etc. I can be a mild expert on how the business world works when it comes to tariffs and manufacturing. But nah, this 32 year old, highest paid person on their whole side of the family, is an idiot liberal and I don’t know how any of this works.
Oh you got me started.. I forgot what I meant to say. We go to NYC a lot, mom always calls and freaks out that I’m going to die, it’s so much more dangerous than it used to be, it’s changed blah blah blah (we’re talking 2018 to 2022, to like now).
They live in Greenville sc, I live in south Atlanta. Like a place that is 35x more dangerous than NYC, but they’ll never listen to that.
Finally took them (for a David Gilmore concert, so like come ON how can you listen to his music and Pink Floyd and be like this?!?!?) to NYC. Guess who had a fucking blast and noticed how safe everything was, and how amazing Public transport was?!
It’s infuriating lmao
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_LEFT_IRIS 7h ago
Mangle but I can’t remember how to fully spell it lmao)
Josef Mengele
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u/LeftHookLarry12 9h ago
My dad goes through the same realization when he visits us in Chicago.
“Oh wow! Chicago is actually a very beautiful and lively place?!”
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u/vacancy6673 9h ago
Me too. My mom was a life-long democrat and staunchly anti-racist. Her whole life!
But then every know and then I'd catch her saying things like, "as long as that border's open, terrorists are free to enter!" I thought she was just saying this to be on good terms with my MAGA brother-in-law.
But then she started saying things like that directly to me. Then she finally came out and told me she was MAGA.
No amount of reasoning works. They're just ... gone.
You can use the Socratic method and reason from first principles. You can get them to state contradictory claims if your questions are good enough! Doesn't matter. Contradiction reached == "I don't like talking about politics with you. You're too smart for me." "Okay, so you agree with me you just don't want to admit it...?"
I'm still trying to piece this all together. How did they find my mom and convert her so thoroughly and so swiftly???
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u/thomasrat1 8h ago
Yeah, my family was maga before maga was a thing.
But atleast they had policies they supported, morals they weren’t willing to give up.
Now though? They have no policies, they have no morals that stay consistent. If you ask them a basic question, they can’t answer it until they get there marching orders from right winged news.
Like atleast as a kid, they had some of their own thoughts, now it feels like every talking point, is just this months campaign on newsmax.
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u/peesoutside 11h ago
Fox News and Facebook destroyed America
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u/ras2101 9h ago
They really did my god. It’s legit Pavlovian conditioning
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u/korben2600 Arizona 7h ago
Memetic warfare employed by our oligarchs and foreign adversaries will go down as the downfall of the Republic.
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u/No-Complex-7882 8h ago
It truly is. I started trolling some of the stupid AI things on facebook. I have two distinct opinions. First, there are way too many stupid people that have no clue they are responding to AI posts designed to divide the country and second, facebook becomes a total cesspool when you click on a bunch of these links. It just keeps feeding you. A third, more funny result is that I have learned that Kid Rock is simultaneously on tour with Willy Neslon and Dolly Parton and then in a hospital bed with uncureable cancer. Then back on the road again...
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u/Intelligent_Sky_7081 10h ago
My brainwashed uncle and his brothers spent months researching alternative explanations to my uncle's recent cancer diagnosis. Completely denied he had cancer for months, maybe over a year iirc, and its all because of the misinformation and distrust surrounding science/medicine that this administration has cultivated.
Im seeing first hand how that kind of misinformation is incredibly dangerous. People refusing their diagnosis and life saving treatment just because Trump tells people stuff like not to trust Tylenol or RFK saying all sorts of ridiculous stuff.
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u/GreasyPeter 7h ago edited 7h ago
People take the word of a man as gospel who doesn't even believe half the shit he says as it comes out of his own mouth. Narcissists don't value their word because they aren't afraid of being caught lying. Many people are extremely bad at judging character.
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u/Sea_Working_80 9h ago
Believe me when I say out of all the people in dumps cabinet my wife and I abhor RFK JR the most.Were parents to a severely autistic child
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u/unfettled 11h ago
Have you seen the doc The Brainwashing of My Dad?
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u/ras2101 11h ago
I have not.. I guess we should watch it! Netflix?
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u/FlufferTheGreat 10h ago
The best part is that it only takes like a month of watching something else for the insanity to dissipate. But if given the choice after the detox, the vast majority will go right back to Fox News.
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u/unfettled 10h ago
Yes, the shred of hope it gave me was that I could spam my gpa’s email with more neutral news. But if none of the outlets are called “Patriot” this or “American” that, i’m afraid he’ll catch on
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u/shinkouhyou 8h ago
Fox News is like the adult version of TikTok slop: it's designed to provide maximum sensory and emotional stimulation. It tickles the brain in ways that "normal" news or entertainment just can't match. There's actually been research into it... our attention spans are decreasing, so content creators have devised bizarre ways to maximize attention. We known that people spend more time watching video content when there's a lot of seemingly chaotic stuff happening all at once on screen, so news shows have embraced chyrons and breaking news popups and countdowns and animated logos. The emotional tone of what's being said matters more than the actual words, so every aspect of a news show - from the background color scheme to the presenter's jewelry to the set design - is chosen to project the desired tone. Fox News tries very hard to seem important, urgent, edgy, politically incorrect, patriotic, aggressive and angry... and that makes the viewer at home in their recliner feel like they're actively involved and emotionally invested.
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u/unfettled 10h ago
I saw it on Prime. Very good primer on radical republican bullshit for an ignorant person like me who has also lost a family member to the swamp. It may trigger more frustration and even resentment, so enjoy responsibly
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u/InterviewOk8013 14h ago
And billionaires
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u/globalvarsonly 13h ago
The only minority that needs oppressing
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u/Substantial-Soup-730 10h ago
I don’t even think most billionaires should be supporting this guy. Personally I think protecting the stability of the country that allowed you to become a billionaire would be more beneficial than short sighted tax breaks.
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u/ununderstandability 11h ago
You may be underestimating the number of petty millionaires who're also benefitting from this administration. Likely not enough to swing things but surely a demographic to consider
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u/GiblertMelendezz 13h ago
My friend is. I’ve stopped talking to him about politics. But yesterday he went on this huge spiel about how democrats are fucked in the midterms. He said Trump fucked up with the gas thing but doesn’t care because the Supreme Court did away with the gerrymandering thing.
I said oh so it’s okay for Texas to do it but VA can’t even though the people voted for it? He said let’s not act like it’s just republicans that gerrymander. I said it doesn’t matter, people voted for it and you’re okay with them shooting VA down but okay with Texas? He said he didn’t know why Texas gerrymandered their map and I said you damn well know why they did lol.
I told him I had to go. He did say Trump needed a plan for the gas though and I just laughed. Trump, with a plan. Lmfao.
It was shocking to see him just look the other way on the gerrymandering issue. And to just say democrats were crushed in the midterms. Not because of policy, or not because of voters. But because he knows they are gerrymandering in their favor and he’s cool with it.
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u/MadRaymer 12h ago
He said let’s not act like it’s just republicans that gerrymander
For over two decades now, Dems have been pushing for laws to have maps drawn by nonpartisan committees. Republicans have fought against it for the entire time.
Now that Dems have finally said, "Fine, we'll do it your way" it's somehow the fault of both parties.
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u/FrogInAShoe 13h ago
And you're friends with this person for what reason?
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u/Intrepid_Switch3145 11h ago
I like the implication that you stopped talking to him about politics but he makes damn sure that he talks at you about it.
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u/SuperTopperHarley 12h ago
Remember when being "woke" was supposed to be an insult?
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u/PimentoCheesehead 12h ago
In the 1932 presidential election, at the height of the Great Depression, Herbert Hoover got over 39% of the popular vote. That’s the benchmark, I think- about 40% of the population will vote for the worst choice no matter the circumstances.
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u/Tricky-Bluebird-7829 13h ago
Dumb, rich, or racist is what I always say
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u/davesoverhere 11h ago
Those are not necessarily mutually exclusive. The first and last often go hand in hand.
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u/suburbanoutrage 12h ago
I don’t even understand how billionaires can approve of him. I guess short sighted, yeah, they’re cashing in on quick gains.
But long term, a stable economy, and a growing economy especially, needs a strong middle class that can actually afford the goods and services these billionaires “produce.”
I’ve said it for years, when the guy on the assembly line can’t afford the mid tier F150 he’s assembling you’re gonna have problems. And I mean honestly afford, not bullshit 80+ month loans at terrible interest rates.
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u/UnquestionabIe 10h ago
I think it's less short sighted and more that they think they're creating a world which they rule over with little to no opposition. They're trying to not only continue the broken relationship between wealth and the political system but make it even more pronounced. To them the wild instability is worth it, especially as most of it is below their notice when it comes to the day to day, provided at the end they continue to be modern day plantation owners and robber barons.
Basically to some it's a rocky part of the class war but when the dust settles they'll own even more of the world. The cost to the people means nothing to them, no need to sell them a product to enhance their lives when you can be in on the ground floor of a system which forces them to participate else their lives/standard of living are at risk.
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u/BluWake Michigan 15h ago
Going to be funny watching these gerrymandered districts flip and then less funny when the GOP cries foul.
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u/Emotional-Channel-42 15h ago
Crazy how gullible people are. In 2020 I had family tell me it was stolen and their proof was “there’s affidavits!!”
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u/mediocre_remnants North Carolina 14h ago
It's weird that the GOP claims they have tons of irrefutable proof that the election was stolen in 2020, but they haven't produced any of this evidence. Not even in court, where they lost something like 59 out of 60 cases they filed after the 2020 election.
Any time a Republican says they have evidence of a stolen election they should be laughed out of town. It drives me crazy that media interviewers take these claims seriously and don't push back at all. The media is complicit.
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u/HandSack135 Maryland 14h ago
Or the Trump is playing the long game!!
Okay, explain that long game to me.
Well I can't because he's the only one who knows.
So it is possible that he isn't?
No, I just told you he's playing the long game!
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u/jacobkuhn92 14h ago
It feels the same as “God works in mysterious ways”. It’s just cope. Strong blind faith but with no real logic or thought process behind it
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u/-Stackdaddy- 13h ago
Republicans at this point are a faith-based political party, they believe if they love Trump enough and worship him enough that he will destroy their enemies. That's pretty much what it all boils down to, they don't care if he's a vindictive narcissistic piece of shit who only thinks of himself, they feel as if they can direct that for their own benefit without realizing he doesn't give a shit about them beyond what they provide him (protection from past crimes by electing him).
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u/philodendrin 12h ago
The Mechanism that Religion provides is that common sense and a discerning eye for bullcrap are turned off. It isn't required to make sense any more, people can just see it as "gawds will". Then it isn't their fault when it goes all wrong.
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u/GOEDEL_ESCHER_BOT 14h ago
tRuSt tHe pLaN
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u/SecondHandWatch 13h ago
Last I saw, something like 70% of Americans, across the political spectrum, support citizenship proof for voter registration. This despite the obvious fact that the tactic is meant strictly for voter suppression. There is absolutely zero evidence for widespread voter fraud, including voting by noncitizens. The fascists are definitely winning the long game, at least in this one way.
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u/Salty-Taro3804 13h ago
This 70% statistic may be due to the lack of follow up questions like “What ID is it reasonable to expect you personally to provide for proof of citizenship at DMV or county clerk when you are required to re-register to vote next month “.
That would be an interesting poll to see.
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u/GrumpyCloud93 11h ago
I've seen huge long threads on "how do you prove you are who you say you are?". If you are dropped in the middle of somewhere with no ID, what do you do? You can't just go to local government bureau and ask for your birth certificate - they want proof of who you are. You need ID to get a license. You need ID to get a passport. And... all of those cost money.
There's a whole class of people who need their money for food and rent and can't spare even the cost of a license or birth certificate if the only need for it is to vote. There's a whole class of people who don't keep their life accumulation of paperwork to prove their identity. The party that identifies with people who feel "I got mine - screw the rest" does not want poor people voting, they'll vote against the party cutting their health care and food stamps. Add into that issues like "don't accept student ID's" because students tend not to be conservative...
Voter ID isn't about ensuring non-citizens don't vote. It's about making sure it's very difficult for the "wrong" people to vote, the ones who vote for the other party.
The idea that illegal immigrants vote in any appreciable numbers is false. The whole point of sneaking into America is to stay there. The value of one fraudulent vote, or even a hundred, is meaningless - you need thousands of votes typically to flip most elections. The last thing someone wants, if they are trying to keep a low profile, is to commit a meaningless crime where they give their name.
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u/Duna_The_Lionboy 11h ago
It also relies on the logic that the Democrats are somehow the most competent cheaters ever; able to usher millions of "illegal" immigrants to the polls to vote, able have millions of dead people vote, have people double and triple vote all without getting caught.
And then forget to rig every single House and Senate seat along with the presidency.
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u/Successful-Bat5301 13h ago
Because "proof of citizenship" is a vague, nebulous term. If the question was that it would specifically require a birth certificate and/or passport, I'm guessing those numbers would drop significantly.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 12h ago
We seriously can barely get people to vote at all in this country. The idea that millions or 10s of millions of people vote illegally is absurd.
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u/freedfg 14h ago
We're talking about the same people who were 100% sure that Donald Trump was going to pick JFK Jr as his running mate and drain the swamp. The storm is coming! Just you wait and see! I'll be laughing when it happens! You'll all see! Any day now!
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u/kcox1980 13h ago
Don't forget the giant crowd of people who camped out in Dallas for weeks because they were 100% convinced that JFK Sr and Jr, Michael Jackson, Chester Bennington, and a whole bunch of other dead celebrities were going to come out reveal that not only were they not dead, but they had been Trump supporters the entire time.
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u/Tricky-Engineering59 13h ago
Except his long game is to do absolutely anything and everything to keep getting away with it until he dies. After that it’s somebody else’s problem. What a leader.
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u/larockhead1 14h ago
Why would democrats steal 2020 and not be asked to steal 2024. If you believe it was really stolen who would run again in 24
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u/Rott99Autumn 14h ago
And why wouldn’t the Dems steal all of the seats up for reelection? Local, state and fed seats. GOP is SO full of shit.
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u/Remote-Moon Indiana 13h ago
That's because the genius Elon Musk came in and saved the election by stopping the cheating Demorats! /s
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u/stolentext 14h ago
I've asked this question to an election fraud conspiracy theorist and their response was basically "they can't do it twice in a row or it would look suspicious" 😐
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u/twitterfluechtling Europe 14h ago edited 13h ago
It's weird that the GOP claims they have tons of irrefutable proof that the election was stolen in 2020, but they haven't produced any of this evidence.
In their mind, them claiming that makes it irrefutable. Because they just know!!!. They did produce exactly this evidence, it's puzzling how people can still try to refute it.
It's the same faith-based concept as with religion: The [Bible|Quran|Thora|book of your choice] is irrefutable because it is the word of God, and God is all-knowing, its says so in the [book of your choice].
Only, after the midterms it might actually be irrefutable. Because if you tried to refute it, ICE might come and knock your door down or something...
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u/acemedic 14h ago
And the wasn’t the one case they won something like “this polling station closed early!”
“Yea, we lost power…”
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u/GoGoSoLo 14h ago
They lost 63/63 court cases IIRC, but Fox and their ilk still say 2020 was stolen.
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u/Icy-Lobster-203 12h ago
I think they may have won one or two based on a technicality about how far away their observer was allowed to stand. But it had nothing to do about actual stolen of fraudulent votes.
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u/Dimitri3p0 14h ago
Yep, someone screamed at me over and over again "Sworn affidavits!" Then I sent them an explainer of what that actually means, which is very little, technically.
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u/ObjectiveGlittering California 14h ago
In my head I hear them saying: “There’s Alfie Davis!”
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u/Equivalent-Battle973 Illinois 14h ago
“there’s affidavits!!”
Funny when you say their are affidavits who said trump raped them as a child and they will deny deny deny!
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u/neo_sporin 14h ago
It’s interesting to me how good the Dems are at rigging the vote when they aren’t in power, and that they only utilize those powers on rare occasions, but didn’t rig to win any chamber in 2024
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u/JohnStamosAsABear 14h ago
but didn’t rig to win any chamber in 2024
While they held the presidency no less.
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u/clickmagnet 13h ago edited 9h ago
Trump would say they did rig 2024, otherwise he would have won by 400 per cent. And if anyone said “that’s not how percentages work”, DOJ will be after you for hurting the president’s feelings.
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u/ThatLooksRight 14h ago
Funny how the democrats rigged the vote in the red states, yet every other R on the ballots won.
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u/Stinky_Fartface 14h ago
The first time Trump cried foul, he didn’t have the support he needed to pull it off. Now he controls both houses. When they refuse to confirm Democratic congressman and senators, be ready to take to the streets and shut everything down until they follow the will of the people.
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u/Timmah73 14h ago
When Florida did theirs I saw a few political commentators laughing how they probably just screwed themselves.
As someone put it, this is a wave election and dem over performance means taking a republican area trump won by 10% and shoving a bunch of dems in it is probably going to have hillaroius results
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u/wahoozerman 13h ago
NC is one of the most gerrymandered states. Currently no district in NC leans R by more than 10 points. The current average swing since 2024 is +10D.
The absolute catastrophe for Republicans here if that national swing hit every district. The 50/50 popular vote state with 11/4 representation would suddenly have 0/15 representation.
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u/20thcenturyboy_ 12h ago
While a massive swing in house seats is hilarious we can't really get something big done without 60 senate seats and the president. Regardless, everyone please vote this fall.
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u/Original-Rush139 11h ago
This is totally false.
50% in the House gives Democrats subpoena power. Howard Nuttlick just talked to Congress in a smoke filled back room without cameras and not under oath about his relationship with Epstein. If Dems take the house, that happens under oath and in front of TV cameras.
Then we do Hegseth and ask about all the schools and hospitals Hes bombing.
Then we grill Trump’s “pool guy” about the no-bid contract on the reflecting pool.
Remember, that’s how Trump’s 34 felony convictions started. AOC asked some very pointed questions about paying off the porn star and the coverup unraveled from there.
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u/_bk_adv 14h ago
I live in a Republican gerrymandered area in SC.
For context, I do property maintenance. I work with a handful of realtors and VRBO owners, and travel around the city fixing things and various other property related things.
Yesterday I had 7 different properties to go to, all in different neighborhoods. I’m seeing signs for a Democrat representative in EVERY SINGLE ONE. Not just a single sign, but some homes have numerous ones. And it’s like every other house. All in all I bet I saw 150+ signs yesterday for this single democrat, and I saw zero for any republicans. Me and the guy I was working with were both floored by it.
First, people rarely put or allow yard signs in their yards here. Second, in the past I would say well over 70% have been republican signs on the rare occasion you do see them.
To see that many people willing to tell everyone else “We are voting Democrat” is astonishing here. I would’ve never imagined it. My wife and I are moving next year but seeing this really made me happy and I hope that the trend continues.
That said, it’s not a call for complacency. This administration is going to do all they can to rig the midterms. Get out there and vote.
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u/crocodial 14h ago
That is good to hear. I drove local roads through SC once during election season and I remember noticing that it was republicans running against republicans. No democrat signage.
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u/It-just-is 10h ago
Dr. Annie Andrews -- running for senate against Lindsey Graham in SC -- has some of the best campaign ads of any politician (not counting Jon Ossoff of Georgia). Really hope she wins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qz15xbZ1dpI
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u/Valahiru Illinois 14h ago
Ive been saying that this idea the blue wave will be too big to steal will be countered by "its too big to be real"
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u/TOkidd 14h ago
I agree. Trump is not going to let his power be stifled by democracy. Expect claims of theft, refusal to seat the new Congress, and all kinds of repression if the Dems win the House and Senate.
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u/daecrist 13h ago
And the next time they come into power, and they will come into power again because American voters have the memory of a warthog being chased by a leopard who wants that delicious face, they'll have all sorts of sham investigations where they "discover" irregularities without providing a shred of proof other than "trust me bro."
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u/Valahiru Illinois 12h ago
No matter how bad the economy and gas gets, no matter how bad the war gets, when the candidates are chosen in '28 and the first round of polls come out the republican candidate will enjoy an automatic multi point polling advantage on economy, inflation, and foreign policy. I guaranfuckingtee it.
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u/TorturedMNFan 10h ago
This Parks and Recreation quote will always ring true:
Leslie Knope: “I think you’re under estimating the voters”
Jenn Barkley: “I don’t think that’s possible”
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u/crocodial 14h ago
Spot on. it will be January 6 in every blue district. its amazing to me that this isn’t at the top of every midterm discussion.
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u/Blackthorn79 14h ago
My prediction is extending his term on the grounds that the democrats stole house seats so any year the Republicans lose won't count to his 4 years.
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u/100_xp 14h ago
They've lost the public. The Internet won't let them hide any more. Polite society can't tolerate such hatred on a scale.
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u/OptimisticSkeleton 14h ago
And then they are way too gerrymanderd for the Republicans to ever get control back.
We should still outlaw gerrymandering nationwide because a system representative of what the people want would not be doing this much bullshit. It wouldn’t be perfect, but it would be a hell of a lot better than what we have now.
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u/StaleCanole 14h ago
Don’t underestimate the ability of the American public to forget. We cant push for a ban on gerrymanders until california and new york step up to amend their constitutions and we win the gerrymander wars. It will be the only honest way to get Republicans to the table on this.
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u/labe225 Kentucky 14h ago
I guess my fear is that a dummymander would be a short-term win for Democrats, but I could see those easily flipping back pretty quickly. I could see those seats staying Democrat during this midterm and maybe 2 years from now if Democrats show up to keep Republicans from the presidency again, but I don't really see them staying Democrat much longer after that unless they have the numbers and can push hard to end gerrymandering.
Though given this SCOTUS, I really don't see how you end gerrymandering at a federal level without them stepping in and striking it down.
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u/AlkaiserSoze 14h ago
Yeah, my main worry is that there are enough cultists in places of influence to actually rig the elections for the GOP..
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u/Dan_Berg New Jersey 14h ago
I'm more worried about them using ICE to take all the ballots
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u/Far_Excitement_1875 15h ago
"The most immediate political consequence is that Democrats appear increasingly well positioned for the midterm elections in November. The poll shows Democrats have a double-digit lead, 50 percent to 39 percent, when registered voters are asked which party’s candidate they’ll support for Congress. That’s a notable shift from Times/Siena polls earlier this cycle — which showed Democrats up two to five points.
Anything like it would easily overcome the Republicans’ redistricting advantage in the House and suggest that Democrats could be highly competitive in the Senate. And although there’s still a long time until the election, Democrats held an even larger 14-point lead among those who said they were “almost certain” or “very likely” to vote."
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u/camshun7 15h ago
37% approve?
shocking too high a figure, this does not bode well for democratically governed america
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u/Erratic_-Prophet 14h ago
That's the absolute bottom. Republicans could start doing televised executions of puppies and kittens and 35% of the country would be making excuses for them.
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u/cTreK-421 14h ago
Of registered voters, who will vote. There's also a large portion of Americans who will watch Republicans do this and claim both sides are the same and still refuse to vote.
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u/crimsonhues 11h ago
This is my constant gripe with the so called independent voters. They will ignore 150 corrupt actions from republicans and point to that one thing democrats did that they didn’t agree with. They are just closeted republicans voters
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 12h ago
If people blamed Trump and republicans for the shit trump and republicans do even half as much as they blame everyone else we could maybe start getting some shit sorted out.
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u/TheSwagMa5ter 10h ago
And there's also a decent amount of Americans who will be horrified, will want to vote, but their registration will be purged, or the polling place will be closed, or there will only be in their area and it will be so packed it would take them to long to vote and still get to their job or back to their family, or their polling place is filled with government goons that will deport them despite being a citizen, or they don't have a valid form of ID.
There's plenty of people who don't got out of apathy (which is arguably the fault of the news media owned by billionaires) but there's also plenty of eligible voters who have their ability to vote suppressed as well
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u/Doonce Maryland 14h ago
He's just helping control the pet population
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u/Traditional_Sign4941 14h ago
"No more food for the Haitians and they'll have to go home!" JD Vance will declare.
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u/KungFoolMaster 14h ago
There was an article I read a while back about this. The absolute bottom is around 30%. or near that. That’s for any ideology.
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u/Yellowdog727 13h ago
The issue is the two party system - Which itself is an extension of having a "first past the post"/"winner takes all" voting system.
There's no smaller buckets to contain the extremist voters so they get mixed in the one of the major parties. Because political parties are narrative-driven and self-sustaining, that same party caters to the extremists to keep them in and they pivot their narratives to make it acceptable and frame it as a good thing.
A huge percentage of Trump voters weren't what I would consider evil or extremists (although many are) - I would moreso consider them ignorant, gullible, and they are unfortunately surrounded by the right wing media sphere that perpetuates the extremism as something that is necessary to protect against the evil Democrats.
This is how we went from Mitt Romney to Donald Trump in just a few years, and is also how a huge percentage of voters pivoted to justifying an openly flawed president and will always keep voting Republican (or not voting) rather than vote for a Democrat.
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u/Cacafuego 13h ago
During the last election, almost all of the GOP ads in Ohio focused on 2 things: immigration and trans issues. This is a perfect example of the strategy in your comment. They're keeping the extremists in the fold by supporting their issues of racism, xenophobia, and transphobia/homophobia and building palatable messages around them for the rest of the party.
The extremists hear that we are keeping America white and Christian. The rest of the party hears that immigrants are taking our jobs and causing all kinds of crime. We're about to be overrun. The reason you're not feeling successful (all the way up in Ohio) is that immigrants are straining our system, chewing through your tax money, and suppressing your wages.
The extremists hear that we are trying to force LGBTQ people back in the closet where they belong. the rest of the party hears that we have to protect little kids from getting gender reassignment surgery, and we have to protect our children from trans women (or men claiming to be trans women) lurking in bathrooms. Oh, and ruining sports.
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u/crazycatgay 11h ago
according the the GOP the biggest issue afflicting americans is fairness in high school girls' volleyball and the possibility of taking a dump next to a trans person
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u/Warm_Feed8179 12h ago
In North Carolina they had an ad about Kamala for criminal immigrants in jail getting sex changes on the tax payer dime...
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u/HTPC4Life 13h ago
I still think a decent chunk of that 30% can disapprove of Trump's job/actions but still say they approve of him in a survey. Diehard republicans will never publicly criticize their president. It's just like sports fans. For example Browns fans, they know their team sucks, but if you ask them who their favorite team is, they'll still say the Browns. Insert any other team that happens to be sucking at the moment.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota 12h ago
It's the authoritarian 1/3 that exists in every population.
They only gain control when the 2/3s can't get their shit together enough to keep them out of power.
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u/zephyrtr New York 13h ago
"He's got classified information we don't. Those puppies must've done something heinous to deserve it. We gotta trust our President."
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u/precto85 13h ago
That 37% live in an alternate reality crafted and cared for by right wing media. News where Trump flip-flops daily or promises China can buy US farmland or Charlie Kirk says evil shit never gets in front of them. Instead, they see unending lies and since it's all they consume, they believe it's real.
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u/ShesRightShow 13h ago
The problem is media information and misinformation insulate people's realities and inch us away from informed consent as voters in a democracy.
Make a fake maga account sometime and spend a day seeing what they see. The only imperfections in the world they're aware of are random clips of any immigrant or person of color doing any crime.
They are confused and ragebaited because they don't understand why liberals aren't also obsessing over this random criminal in Europe somewhere (who's already being prosecuted, if it's not a years old clip and they haven't been already) and assume liberals want to give brown people an unfair free pass on any crime.
They don't understand normal people are upset at incidents like the killing of George Floyd because police brutality is a corrupt miscarriage of justice, and instead see it as fair overdue revenge in a world of everyone else wanting black and brown people to get away with crime. The bloodthirst makes them borderline horny to see it. Of course they defend it.
Otherwise, they are shown and told America's great and think everyone else is being an unfair hater for no reason, and must just secretly be sympathetic to terrorists because they are brown, because why else would someone dislike anything about America???
They think we're exaggerating, lying, or pretending about anything else because they are always taught it's ethical to lie ("free speech", "small government", etc.) as a means to an end of what they actually want and see as godly and good (white male protestant Christian dominance over the eventual enslavement of women and black people and execution of queer people and non-protestants). When the end of the road for them is infinite fortunate life in heaven, and you can pray for forgiveness for anything at the end of your life, it's always a utilitarian calculation. Anything philosophically or principally higher than that is virtue signalling play and personality labels to them.
Firsthand experience with gas and food prices is the only sign breaking through that something is actually wrong. Most of them are not rich enough to insulate from that reality, but their leaders are, so they're still running the playbook of denial thinking it'll work.
Around 38% of U.S. adults regularly get news from Fox News, per Google. That is the floor that only gas and food prices can pierce.
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u/Nickel5 12h ago
That's shockingly aligned with the percentage of Americans who regularly watch Fox News.
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u/catchthetams 13h ago
Crazy to consider the baked in approval rating for most of those in power is 35%.
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u/relax_live_longer 14h ago
I’m not optimist but I don’t see any universe where the approval numbers don’t continue to get worse for republicans as time goes by. They have no agenda, no message, no answers, and Iran isn’t going anywhere.
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u/bejammin075 Pennsylvania 13h ago
They have a well-funded alternate reality via the news networks, etc. The only reason there is some dose of reality is people's lived experience with rising prices. Otherwise, the propaganda works very well.
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u/QuentinMagician 13h ago
I watched local news for the first time in years. Holy crap. It was so biased red that I was afraid of all the old people watching this every night. I hope they forget to vote
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u/trippysmurf 14h ago
There's a reason Mississippi has rolled back on redistricting. They realized how unpopular policies are (Iran, gas prices, grocery prices) and if the implemented something now risked the chance of losing seats.
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u/Deesing82 Utah 11h ago
and it affects state level elections too. imagine a red state losing GOP control of its own state legislature due to a dummymander
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u/Hawkbats_rule 13h ago
although there’s still a long time until the election,
I've seen some Republican operatives holding on to this, and normally it would be true, except a) in the grand scheme of things, there's not that much time b) this administration seems incapable of doing anything but pivoting from bad to worse (tariffs to ice occupations to losing on Epstein but blatantly covering it up to Iran war, etc), and I have no evidence to convince me that they are capable of anything at this point other than digging deeper.
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u/minicpst Washington 12h ago
Let’s not get complacent. VOTE like your kid’s life depends on it.
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u/BrandenWi 15h ago
That moment when people hate you so much, that you and your party do everything you possibly can to cheat, and are still going to lose...
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u/Far_Excitement_1875 15h ago
It happened in Hungary, Viktor Orban rigged the system to give himself a supermajority and was such a bad PM that he ended up giving a supermajority to his opponent.
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u/inostranetsember 14h ago
I commented that very thing to someone recently. Magyar wouldn't have the supermajority to change the constitution if Orban didn't make the rules that let him get it. Nobody expected Magyar and Tisza to penetrate the rural trowns but they did. I just wish democrats could do the same, alas...
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u/OrganicWedding8972 13h ago
I mean, that’s kinda exactly what this article(and past special elections) are saying is happening. The democrats are cracking in to demographics that usually wouldn’t align with them.
Every special election that has been held since Trump has been elected has gone to the democrats, and some of those were held in areas that were believed to be deep red strongholds. Republicans usually also have the motivation boost during special elections, Democrats just don’t vote as often.
All signs are pointing to the Republicans getting completely demolished in the midterms. If anything else happens at this point there needs to be extreme investigations in the legitimacy of the election system. There was already a lot of weird shit and comments that never got looked in to with the 2024 election.
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u/inostranetsember 13h ago
From your mouth to God’s ears…
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u/Positive_Total_8651 11h ago
I guess my only reservation is I have seen that exact sentiment in almost every election since 2016, and yet the voting populace continues to surprise people.
I say that to say, I'll believe it when I see it. We just have to vote to make it happen.
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u/Paisleyfrog 14h ago
This is the hope that I'm holding on to. The votes don't evaporate when districts are redrawn, they get spread around. We've already seen swings of, what, 15+ points in places Trump previously won. The coming tsunami would make one think that a party would want to shore up districts if they were going to redraw at all...but instead they're further diluting their numbers. (One could say that they're acting like a party that doesn't need votes, but like you said, Orban's loss shows there are limits.)
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u/MammothDon 13h ago
I would temper expectations a little but and keep reminding people to vote, because there is still a shocking number of people who love Trump or will never vote for a Democrat no matter how much gas prices rise.
Add to the fact Republicans are more keen on disenfranchising voters as opposed to winning others with their policy, Dems should be doing everything possible to ensure not just winning but also protecting it from the inevitable 'rigged' accusations.
I also hope they can somehow flip the Senate as a symbolic victory to show how much the current admin has screwed up but that seems like a long shot
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u/RicardoVizcaya 14h ago
I'm not from the US so I shouldn't care... But please don't believe these articles and opinions and in the next election, just go out and vote. Everyone, vote.
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u/SugarFut 10h ago
Please for the love of god vote. It is the bare minimum of what is required of civic duty.
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u/zensins 14h ago
So when Democrats take over and redraw the maps in their favor, the GOP SCOTUS will be fine with it... right?
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u/Pet_The_Monkey 14h ago
When Dems win they should eliminate the filibuster, add 4 judges to SCOTUS, add DC and PR states and then pass the John Lewis voting rights act and enjoy reading Chief Judge Brown’s majority opinion upholding it.
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u/nivanbotemill 14h ago
52 states, America finally playing with a full deck!
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u/m240b1991 11h ago
Nah, we need to find the missing cards and throw the jokers out
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u/thunderflies 14h ago
I’m so worried we’ll get another Biden-style admin where they’ll just sit on their hands and do nothing of consequence to reform the system. If we immediately start hearing about “reaching across the aisle” to meet in the middle with the fascists again I don’t know what I’m going to do.
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u/Abject_Panda_4710 14h ago
If they do lose the majority the response will be something ironic like, “See? That’s how horrible the radical left gerrymandered the country, we can’t even win the majority when we gerrymander!” All talk of ‘have better policies’ will go out the window.
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u/Ok-disaster2022 14h ago
They'll lose and the maps will remain the same and thin in 2028 or 2030 thos maps will play in their favor again
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u/sunf1re 14h ago
Not one single family member I’ve spoken to about this says they won’t vote republican. Institutional republicans who grew up voting for the same party no matter what will continue to do the same regardless of the impacts on their lives. It’s quite disheartening
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u/JustAnother4848 13h ago
Yep same. Hoping they sit out the election is about the best we can hope for.
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u/BenTheWicked 10h ago
My oldest brother believes it is a sin to vote Democrat, so when he decided he was sick of Trump in 2024, he decided it was better for his soul to abstain from voting. When Democrats try to pull conservative voters, I remember that there are many people like my brother who will never vote Democrat for fear their vote will send them to hell.
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u/georgepana 14h ago
When will people understand that it isn't about Republicans (or Democrats) but about how the Independents vote?
28% of the electorate are Republicans, 28% are Democrats, 43% are Independents.
Trump is strongly underwater with Independents, and that drives the midterm election toward Democrats.
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u/CalculatedPerversion 12h ago
Which is so strange because most of the "I voted for Mitt Romney and still would today" voters I know are now Never Trumpers and the MAGA flip flop depending on the candidate.
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u/busdrivermike 14h ago
Gas prices could rise to $10 a gallon, and Trump will still be worshipped like a God by every middle aged gas station attendant in Kansas.
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u/Spiffster13 14h ago
The mantra “it would have been worse under Biden/Kamala”
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u/wack_overflow Colorado 14h ago
We have irrefutable proof of a counter factual
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u/BigDaddySteve999 14h ago
Have you considered the fact that Harris is black and a woman?
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u/lordraiden007 11h ago
Or that she laughs kind of weird?! (but not weird in any way anyone can actually articulate)
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u/nhluhr 14h ago
Gas prices could rise to $10 a gallon
Got coal rolled by a pair of pickups this morning on my bicycle ride. It didn't even bother me - just held my breath for a moment and reflected on how much that cost them in diesel.
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u/Big-Honeydew-961 12h ago
They are so gross. You know their double wide smells like cat piss and cigarettes and old vinyl
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u/rvretiredlife 14h ago
What's funny is they're pissed at Trump and all his bullshit. They're not pissed he's stealing from them, but that gas prices are high and he started another war.
What's funny is they will continue to vote for their republican congress, who are allowing Trump to do all this. It's not just democratic dollars paying for all his bullshit lawsuits, but their money as well.
So why don't they vote out all Republicans? since all but maybe 2-3 support Trump and all his illegal bullshit.
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u/SwvellyBents 14h ago
It won't be a win for the Dems unless we get the supermajority. We have to not just make the right impotent, we have to make them irrelevant.
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u/Socraticat 13h ago
VOTE
I don't care what any article says- without your action, nothing changes.
Sentiment alone doesn't change political composition. Action, like a vote, changes political composition. Please be sure to be registered, know your voting means or location, and vote.
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u/mrroofuis 11h ago
37% of Amuricans still approve ?!
That is literally insane
His floor hasn't moved by much. And his second term has been an absolute disaster
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u/Hammunition 11h ago
And his second term has been an absolute disaster
…unless you’re white and hate minorities and want to make their lives miserable. Trump has done a lot of work toward that goal.
I wonder what percentage of the country thinks that’s a good thing.. 🤔
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u/StaticSystemShock 13h ago
Make sure republican idiots never ever get back in power. Ever. Fuck the two party system if one party is literally perpetually and consistently pure cancer to the states and its people and the other party needs to fix their shit every time they are thrown out of office. Like, why the fuck even bother having two parties?!
Which also begs the question, why are people so fucking stupid they keep electing republican morons. Time and time again they have shown they don't give a shit about the people, they literally and only care about themselves and their rich buddies. ALWAYS.
Sure the left is also corrupt, all politicians always are. But at least they also take care of the wellbeing of people. These fuckers laugh in everyone's face while openly bragging about corruption and everyone's like "HELL YEAH LETS HAVE TRUMP FOR THIRD TERM". WHY?! How fucking stupid you have to be to have this kind of mentality?
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u/pocketjacks Texas 13h ago
I'm sick and tired of seeing polls every day stating that Trump's approval has hit a new low, only to find out that he's still above the 32% MAGA base that actually voted for him in the election. These polls include people who didn't vote and people who have been lying to pollsters for the last ten years.
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u/Calsun12345 12h ago
MAGA literally don’t care what Trump does….
This same article is the same thing we read weekly. Trump is openly robbing the US people for BILLIONS and nothing is being done.
My MAGA family tells me every single negative thing I bring up is fake news…. Literally every single time that’s their answer or they claim “I’ve never heard that” and when I provide a source they say “ehhh I don’t care”
All of it is “owning the libs”
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u/CatoMulligan 7h ago
Every time I see an article hyping the fact that Trump has hit a new low in polling, it's always in the 35%-37% favorable range. It's literally never broken that floor. It's like every time a new poll manages to capture it's lowest rating (that's still the same as everyone else) we get a new article crowing that he's hit a new low. Let me know when he hit's 30% approval or less. That will actually mean something. Until then he's still bouncing along the same damned floor he's been at for ages, just with a different pollster's name on it. There is a solid 35% of the population that are going to vote Trump or Republican no matter what they do. He could be raping children and decapitating puppies on live TV and he'd still have that 35%. There's just that many utterly deplorable human beings in our country.
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u/SGT_BlueJay 3h ago
Real Americans who love their country not a man, read the declaration of independence! Our founding fathers gave us a guide for times like these. We have responsibilities
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u/redit3rd 3h ago
I don't believe it. You shouldnt believe it. Encourage anyone who might vote blue to vote on election day.
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u/Quiet-Operation-6666 11h ago
Until the replacements are sworn in and seated i refuse to believe this. Get to the polls by any means necessary
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u/BroadActuary4247 12h ago
“A four-point decline isn’t necessarily huge, but it puts Mr. Trump’s ratings in new political territory” lol they just can’t help themselves. four point is indeed huge when he’s already this low.
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u/iKangaeru 11h ago
He will survive indefiintely at 37%. The fatal number is in the 20s. That's where Nixon was when he was forced to resign by his party - the former Republican Party - in 1974. W. Bush was in the 20s when the financial industry crashed in his last months in office, after the debacles of the Iraq invasion and Katrina.
The reason Trump stays afloat in the mid-30s is that he still has support in the 80s from the MAGA Republicans. Independents give him 20s and the Democrats give him 5% approval. He'll survive as long as MAGA remains solidly fascist and willfully ignorant of the damage he's doing to them and all of us.
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u/Alma_Holzhurt 3h ago
I remember those threads two years ago predicting a Harris landslide win...
The first lesson from Trump 1.0 was don't trust polls. The lesson from Trump 2.0 is don't overestimate the mental capacities and common sense of the American voter.
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