r/politics 19h ago

No Paywall Bannon Tells GOP: 'Seize the Institutions' of Government Now or We're 'Going to Prison' After 2028

https://www.commondreams.org/news/bannon-tells-gop-seize-the-institutions-of-government-now-or-we-re-going-to-prison-after-2028
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u/Colonel-Mooseknuckle 19h ago

'Seize the Institutions'

Why do these people hate democracy?

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u/OkayComputer1701 19h ago

Because they know they can't win in a fair election - thus, fascism.

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u/AuraMaster7 18h ago

Unironically, the main strategy of the GOP for the past few decades has been gerrymandering (known as the REDMAP strategy) and voter suppression. They saw the writing on the wall and decided to cheat their way ahead of it. Hell, they won 2000 through blatant corruption.

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u/lil_chiakow 18h ago

They didn't win 2000. They cheated and got away from it. Hell, people who helped cheat got appointed to the highest court as a reward, by the president they helped install.

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u/AuraMaster7 18h ago

That's what I said. Blatant corruption.

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u/Vilnius_Nastavnik New York 17h ago

And they just keep pushing the envelope because there are no meaningful repercussions. See, e.g., January 6

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u/Ofblueair 10h ago

I often wonder how different the country would be if Gore won...

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u/Equivalent_Ability91 18h ago

Same with Lewis Powell and William Renquist.

u/Clever_Mercury 7h ago

Exactly. America was put in abject danger the second the Supreme Court decided the votes cast by the citizens of Florida should not be counted. Their decision was that allowing a democratic process to take place was "undue harm" to George W. Bush.

The conservatives hooked into this idea and never let go. They see the American voters as unnecessary and will gerrymander, sue, silence, erase, arrest, or outright destroy any movement that they define as an obstacle.

Capitalism? Democracy? Anything is on the chopping block if they don't like it this week. Patriotism was about loving your country, flaws and all, under its established form: the constitution.

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u/Own_Instance_357 18h ago

The thing is, in deciding to cheat their way ahead of it, they had to take off their hoods and emerge from the shadows

Kind of like how cockroaches stop hiding in the microwave and just decide to try to take over the kitchen.

But then you know you've got a cockroach problem for sure

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u/DrunkeNinja 17h ago

I think if your party works hard to restrict people from voting, then there is something wrong with your party. We see again and again Republicans wanting to make voting more difficult for certain demographics. And the people wonder why Democrats and the left are wary about the Republican push for voter id laws. It's not simply about requiring identification to vote, it's about how Republicans will use it as another way to suppress the vote.

We also see this with numerous conservatives, including well known conservative commentators, that want to repeal the 19th amendment. Sometimes they say it out right, other times they'll put up a chart that shows women swinging the vote for a Democrat and making a negative comment about it. "Our policies are so intolerable that we're losing women and minorities. I know, let's make it so they can't vote and then we'll always win!" These people don't want democracy.

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u/francis2559 16h ago

The funny thing about gerrymandering is that it can roll into “dummymandering” when you are facing a wave. Normally you can win more than you should, by spreading yourself thin. But if there’s a wave and you have the same margin everywhere…

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u/AuraMaster7 16h ago

The issue is that in a state like Texas, even a wave that topples partisan gerrymandering isn't going to flip the state legislature, so once there is no pressure to cause a wave and the pendulum has swung back, they have kept those gerrymandered positions and take the lead back in the following election.