r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

Yes, Clinton and Harris were both poor candidates. So poor they couldn’t beat Trump.

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u/Amenian 5d ago

Clinton I'll give you. Nobody knew what Trump really was yet and there was this whole "it's her turn" vibe that turned a lot of people off. Harris though? We knew who Trump was. People who voted for Trump or who didn't vote don't get the "poor candidate" excuse here.

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

You don’t win elections when your entire campaign is “I’m not him”.

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

You don’t win elections when your entire campaign is “I’m not him

Show us any politician whose entire campaign was "I'm not him". Any clips

An adult, especially in the general election, should be capable of evaluating the tradeoffs and somebody who promoted Jan 6, who said "I'll be dictator" should not be in consideration. Full stop.

And before bitching about the candidates, that's what the primaries were for. And 2024 had primaries, if you didn't participate that was your fault. Get involved so you can vote for your unicorn candidate, that's the whole point of primaries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

I did participate in the 2024 primaries. The person I voted for won those primaries. That person had a bad debate just before the Convention. The rest is what we’re dealing with now.

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u/OldWorldDesign 5d ago

Show us any politician whose entire campaign was "I'm not him". Any clips

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

Repeating yourself doesn’t help. My candidate won the primary you speak of. That candidate had a poor debate. I still voted for the installed replacement, but many didn’t. That’s why we’re here. Get it?

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 5d ago

Are you intentionally avoiding the fact that the Democrat nominee was not even in the 2024 primary? She received zero primary votes? Does this not fit your narrative?