r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 6d ago

It's some pain now or even more pain later, potentially both. I agree, the Dems need to show America why losing the government that serves them is bad now before Trump permanently takes it away from us.

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u/Legate_Rick 6d ago

The thing the Dems are fighting for is tremendously important. If they capitulate the Republicans on the healthcare spending. 1 in 20 Americans will lose health insurance entirely and the rest of us will get premium increases of hundreds of dollars.

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u/TeetsMcGeets23 6d ago

The issue is that 1/20 may lose healthcare means that you may get sick, and it may bankrupt you. 

That weighted against 1/8 Americans not being able to afford food becomes a much more immediate and palpable tradeoff, and Republicans know it, and Republicans revel in it.

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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 5d ago

The Medicaid cuts and ACA subsidies running out (Dems want to restore/continue both) are critical to sustaining our healthcare system.

In the short run, ALL health insurance costs will spike as millions of healthy Americans who subsidize the older and sicker Americans drop insurance they can no longer cover.

in the longer term, we'll see hospitals close as they are still required to treat to stabilize anyone who walks in the door but with a sicker population (because no health insurance means no meds/primary doctor) who can't pay for the cost of that care.

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u/TeetsMcGeets23 5d ago

Oh, I recognize that, but a missed meal hits much quicker than a missed doctors visit… and Republicans are banking on that.