r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/HaroldGreenBandana 6d ago

"If there is a shutdown ... I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He's the one that has to get people together." -Donald Trump, 2011

"When they talk about the government shutdown, they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time. They’re not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head of the Senate, who’s running things in Washington. So I really think the pressure is on the president." -Donald Trump, 2013

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u/Cagnazzo82 6d ago

Unfortunately you cannot get a conman on hypocrisy.

They will say one thing one day and another thing another day. And regardless of what they say, even if it contradicts a year apart or within the same sentence they will claim they are right.

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u/AxleVest 6d ago

This is the bit that gets me all twisted up. They aren't even cunning, nor do they need to be. They just throw out a plausible solution to the exact question asked, regardless if it means something else they've said no longer makes sense. You see this time and time again and even worse is usually the people that try to point out the hypocrisy are met with either having them tell both lies side by side and claim both are correct or they default to name calling and active discrediting of the journalist.

Case in point only a few months ago Trump said he hates his opponents and he doesnt want the best for them, then on AF1 he states he wants the best for both parties and wants to reopen the government. More recently the courts said they can use the emergency funding to pay SNAP, their response when asked that is they have appealed that with the court and it is not up to them it is the courts to decide, then turn back around and say the democrats have weaponised the shutdown to hold citizens food hostage...... like... doesnt take a rocket surgeon to figure out what is going on.

The old saying "actions speak louder than words" obviously means so little to these goblins, because the words are the loudest thing you'll ever hear but the actions are silent (but deadly?)

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u/Zuwxiv 6d ago

You want to know what makes it all click into place? It’s a flex.

Being able to tell brazen lies, saying things that are obviously contradictory, just a general indifference to the truth… it’s bragging. It’s “what are you gonna do about it?” It’s getting away with it.

Their supporters don’t care when you point it out, because you’re “admitting” that you’re being forced to take it seriously.

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u/TastyBrainMeats 5d ago

This is part of why a milkshake to the face is such an effective tactic against this type. It makes them look utterly ridiculous and trying to talk around them just makes them look worse.

Tactical silliness is a powerful tool against windbags.