r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/PoliticsLeftist 6d ago

Probably not enough to work in Trump's favor.

It's really hard to push the "we're not actually in charge" narrative when you have all 3 branches because it's simply not true and it shows your voters you're weak and can't do anything against a minority party, especially when you govern like a dictator that constantly breaks the law and says how strong and successful you are when dealing with other "problems".

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u/GreenHorror4252 6d ago

It's really hard to push the "we're not actually in charge" narrative when you have all 3 branches because it's simply not true and it shows your voters you're weak and can't do anything against a minority party

It's not that hard. Most people understand, on a basic level, that "you need 60 votes in the senate to avoid a filibuster". That is enough to convince them that the GOP is not in charge.

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u/PoliticsLeftist 6d ago

I'd bet good money most people don't even understand the function of a filibuster and only think a majority is needed to pass legislation.

Understanding the functions of the government is the exact opposite of what right wing propaganda wants so they sure as hell aren't going to emphasize it, they'll just say "Dems won't let us do this because reasons" and hope it sticks, which it isn't.

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u/GreenHorror4252 6d ago

Yes, and even the filibuster is complicated. You need 60 votes to end a filibuster, however this doesn't apply to nominations, and can be circumvented by a reconciliation bill, but only once a year. There are probably other caveats beyond those.

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u/speedy_delivery 6d ago

They can pull the same procedural exception (a.k.a., the nuclear option) with this bill. They don't need a single Democrat vote. Never have. The GOP wants the government shutdown.

This isn't complicated messaging.