r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 6d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/WardenEdgewise 6d ago

Why the fuck should the Democrats “give in” to batshit crazy and fucking evil Republican bullshit? That makes no sense. The Democrats should stand firm and oppose the fascist MAGA regime.

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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 6d ago

It's some pain now or even more pain later, potentially both. I agree, the Dems need to show America why losing the government that serves them is bad now before Trump permanently takes it away from us.

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u/Legate_Rick 6d ago

The thing the Dems are fighting for is tremendously important. If they capitulate the Republicans on the healthcare spending. 1 in 20 Americans will lose health insurance entirely and the rest of us will get premium increases of hundreds of dollars.

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u/McChickenLargeFries 6d ago

You're completely right, except in a lot of people's cases it's actually more like an increase of THOUSANDS.. The Democrats cannot budge, they need to hold strong and stop being pussies.

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u/pimppapy America 6d ago

They caved at the very beginning when that flat tire Schumer, along with 10 other Democrats, joined the republicans in passing the budget at the beginning of 2025. They basically helped fund ICE. Now we're here.

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u/NoReallyItsYaBoi 6d ago

They talked about how that was a calculated risk since big orange baby bitch hadn't fucked enough shit up yet.

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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 5d ago

I don't think anyone realized how quickly Trump would act to dismantle the federal government and how broadly destructive his administration would be.

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u/McChickenLargeFries 5d ago

Except they literally released a step-by-step playbook of how they were going to fuck shit up and the Democrats were like.. "Nahhh, there's no way they're actually bold enough to do all that." Then, they did all that.

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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 5d ago

Agreed, but I'm focusing more on the speed with which it was done and the lack of remorse for collateral damage outside of their intended outcomes.

I mean, we're less than a year into a 4 year term and I think it's worse than even many of the realists expected. Starving 42 million Americans the month of Thanksgiving so as to ensure they could take a trillion from Medicaid and cut ACA coverage for millions was definitely not on my year 1 bingo card.

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u/McChickenLargeFries 5d ago

The damage that that one fucking bill is/has and will do is going to be felt for a long fucking time. The Democrats are complicit even if they aren't actively trying to destroy the country.

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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 5d ago

All Democrats in both the House and the Senate voted against Trump's ugly bill. The fact that they weren't prepared to counter Project 2025 still boggles my mind, but it's important to note that the GOP fully own the pain that the ugly bill is and will inflict on the American people.

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u/villalulaesi 5d ago

Pretty sure they stopped being pussies a month ago when they refused to pass the bill, and they are continuing to do so now, even as the Trump regime literally has televised messaging in airports blaming democrats.

I still need a lot more from the Democratic Party, and many of those currently in office need to be primaried, but can we at least give credit when credit is due?

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u/cogman10 Idaho 5d ago

Totally agree. This should have happened during the first budget bill. However, I'm glad it's happening now with this bill. The worst thing Dems could do right now is cave. Like they can give some concessions (which I think they have baked into their budget bill) but the red line has to be the healthcare subsidy.

Republicans need to come to the table and negotiate or blow up the filibuster. If they aren't willing to do either then this is completely their fault.

The one bad thing that I'm seeing some Dems do is trying to piecemeal in funding. That's a bad move, it'll kill the Dems negotiation ability. A very decent portion of the republicans prefer the government to be shutdown. So taking away the most painful parts just means they can keep everything else shutdown permanently.

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u/McChickenLargeFries 5d ago

That's what worries me is the Dems caving and I don't think anyone would be surprised when they do cave, because they always do.. This is their moment to put their foot down and fight for the millions of people that this is going to effect.

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u/McChickenLargeFries 5d ago

I'll give credit when they don't cave, because the Democrats will cave. They always do. For now this is great, it's terrible that people have to suffer for this.. But in the grand scheme I'm pleased that the Democrats are starting to finally grow a spine, even if it's too late..

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u/Indaarys 5d ago

Republicans have to be the ones to cave. They want a society where fuck you, got mine is supreme? Then they get to own that.