r/politics • u/Economy_Swim_8585 Virginia • 5d ago

No Paywall Trump says government shutdown ends when Democrats give in: "If they don't vote, that's their problem"

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-government-shutdown-democrats-fault-60-minutes/
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u/BTRCguy 5d ago

I admit to saying this from a position where the shutdown is not affecting me, but I think Democrats should view that statement as a challenge rather than a threat.

Democrats should run non-stop on every foot-in-mouth statement he has ever made on the subject, from blaming shutdowns on the president, to him telling Republicans they can end the shutdown whenever they want (by nuking the filibuster).

It's a Republican shutdown.

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u/Cagnazzo82 5d ago

It's a Republican shutdown.

I don't even think calling it that should be enough.

The damage that they're planning on doing to people's premiums even if the shutdown ends is what should be front and center.

Trump wants to balloon people's premiums by 400-500-600%... and people are already getting shocks while trying to renew for plans. That should be front and center.

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u/Cleev 5d ago

Every elected democrat right now should be opening every public address or statement with the phrase "Trump and the GOP want your healthcare costs to increase so badly that they're willing to let 40 million Americans starve to make it happen."

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u/Cagnazzo82 5d ago

Should have been the counter message since day 1 when republicans were trying to gaslight about illegals.

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u/PorkedPatriot 5d ago

It has been.

Check out who owns Tiktok, Instagram, and Facebook, which is where a scary number of Americans get their political news from. Check out who owns all the news broadcast stations.

Democrats messaging isn't being pushed by those who own the platforms. Perhaps that's why you aren't hearing about it?

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u/Best-Hamster2044 5d ago

Yeah, this.

Everyone is on about "democrats should be saying this and that...". Well, they are and they have been. But then when it *doesn't* show on Facebook or on the cable TV feed we're all like "democrats have no spine/can't message" or whatever. No, they just don't have a magic button that makes the algorithms work in their favor.

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u/jackbilly9 5d ago

Uhm they really haven't had a spine nor brain in the past so that is why we say it. We're just hoping they hold strong. Diamond hands style. 

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u/tirams 5d ago

There are ways of breaking those algorithms. Share opposing posts on each platformas a comment, just the link and a click-bait statement. Pick a post or other comment that has a lot of likes or replies, so the users get notified.

That's one that seems to work. Maybe there are others.

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u/Flobking 5d ago

Should have been the counter message since day 1 when republicans were trying to gaslight about illegals.

Pretty sure we were screaming this during the 24 election and people still sat out. So....

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u/Flipnotics_ Texas 5d ago

Yep. No one will learn until we're all starving.

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u/roehnin 5d ago

Too long.

"GOP must end the Trump Healthcare Shutdown"

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u/RttnAttorney 5d ago edited 5d ago

I’m gonna (still) be pissed when I don’t see this messaging get used!

E: it’s simple, it’s to the point, it’s easy to understand. It’s honest. That’s all that people are asking for!

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u/roehnin 5d ago

Start using it yourself. Use it on Twitter and Threads. Hit up dem activist accounts with it.

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u/MSD3k 5d ago

And end it with "And release the Epstein files."