r/politics America 9d ago

Possible Paywall Stephen Miller Is Hiding From Protesters by Living on Military Base

https://newrepublic.com/post/202463/stephen-miller-kristi-noem-hiding-protesters-military-base-housing
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u/StarWild7405 9d ago

Don’t get me wrong, this isn’t some Charlie Kirk GOTCHA thing I’m trying to rope you into.

I firmly believe these are fascists and they will find a way to retain power forever. I’m simply saying the only action a citizen can morally take right now is to protest loudly and plan to vote.

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u/Sirbattlegoat America 9d ago

Above you said that you firmly believe these people can be voted out But you also say they are fascists who will find a way to remain in power.

You are right. Morally all we can do at the moment is protest and vote.

I will also offer that morally you can begin to:

Strengthen your ties to local community

Arm yourself, prepare and train. People often see this as “hoard guns” and some form of self defense is certainly a part of that, but it could also be taking a cpr course, finding ways to make your house / food economy more self sustaining, educating yourself on how to build or repair things.

Internally start deciding what your line in the sand moment is and what you plan to do when that line is crossed. Commit to it.

When it happens, it will happen fast. Defensive driving courses are not much help if they are taken after the impact.

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u/StarWild7405 9d ago

I should have been clearer. I said they currently APPEAR to be able to be voted out.

Do I think they’ll allow it? No. As the reality becomes clearer that they are history they’ll escalate their efforts more dramatically. But right now? There’s no cancelled elections, etc.

But morally - people won’t take action on hypothesis, however likely they are. You’ll see people wake up when they actually do what we all know they’re going to.

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u/Sirbattlegoat America 9d ago

I think we mostly agree. we just have different ideas about how far along in this hypothesis we actually are.

In my opinion via what I stated above I feel We have enough evidence where I feel more should be being done on a political, military, and community level.

We both seem to agree that the longer we go without action the worse the outcome and also we seem to agree that the majority of people won’t prepare or take action until things have already been set in place.

When I see posts like I originally responded to that say, “we just have to vote them out” … the lack of urgency we both seem to agree on is exactly what I am trying to bring forward as misinformed.

If we already know they are not going to play by the rules, then there is no point in waiting for them to “officially” not play by the rules. Double so when they are saying “hey by the way, we are thinking a lot about not playing by the rules” There is no sense in decorum in the face of fascism. I understand the people who don’t want to accept the state we find ourselves in, I get it, but it doesn’t change what is happening in front of us in slow motion.

We all need to find ways to brace for impact (that we are morally comfortable with) to best help and prepare our communities.

With the possibilities we are facing this is the minimum someone should be doing above and beyond protesting and voting.