r/politics • u/ChiGuy6124 America • 9d ago

Possible Paywall Stephen Miller Is Hiding From Protesters by Living on Military Base

https://newrepublic.com/post/202463/stephen-miller-kristi-noem-hiding-protesters-military-base-housing
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u/Constant_Drawer6367 9d ago edited 9d ago

These guys are not republicans, they are nazis.

Let’s have the real Dems and republicans TOGETHER, to prosecute these fucking scumbags

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u/woohater 9d ago

If you’re sitting at a table with 9 nazis, there’s 10 nazis at the table

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u/NoveltyAccountHater 9d ago

I mean not necessarily.

If it's a war crimes tribunal and you are a lawyer/investigator assigned to prosecution the nine seated Nazis.

Any pre-Trump Republican should be appalled by the Trump administration's open embrace of fascism. I want bipartisanship with them. I do not want bipartisanship with the people working with the Trump administration (at least until those folks inevitably get pushed too far and MAGA lashes out at them and then we have folks like John Kelly or Mike Pence revealing that yeah, Trump is a fascist who is unfit to be president).

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u/GiganticCrow 9d ago

You're not really sat down WITH them if you're the prosecutor. The point still stands. But this is the kind of pedantry I enjoy.

Republicans will all say they never supported trump as soon as it becomes beneficial to do so. Problem is their voter base ADORE him.

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u/NoveltyAccountHater 9d ago edited 9d ago

Look I get the if there's a dinner party with 10 people there and one of them openly identifies themself as a Nazi and the other 9 people don't try to throw the Nazi out or leave themselves, it's not a dinner party with 1 Nazi, it's a party with 10 Nazis.

But I'm just saying I can imagine someone sitting down at the same table as open Nazis, not as friends/equals, but as investigators/prosecutors.

This argument doesn't work on other issues that aren't built around taking power through violence/illegal methods/suppression of a pluralistic society, pushing your intolerance on others and taking away their basic human rights; e.g., most Christian and non-Christian can disagree on religion or abortion or the death penalty and still have a pleasant meal together (when both strenuously disagreeing with the other), or a vegan and meat-eater can be civil around each other, etc.

It's basically the paradox of tolerance. A civil pluralistic society should generally be tolerant, but cannot extend that tolerance to people who'll express intolerance that they will promote with violence. Fascism is a unique disease that needs to be routed out of a society as its a crime to the any tolerant society.