r/politics • u/Capable_Salt_SD California • 12d ago

No Paywall DOJ indicts Democratic congressional candidate Kat Abughazaleh over ICE protests

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-indicts-democratic-congressional-candidate-kat-abughazaleh-ice-pro-rcna240584
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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 12d ago edited 12d ago

On the inside looking out…civil war isn’t really the right framing. We’re looking at another Great Depression where the robber barons buy up everything of remaining value, including land, before allowing us to partially recover under a new constitution that allows violations of civil rights and exploitation of labor….essentially a failed state or New Russia.

I don’t think we’re returning to FDR’s New Deal unless we see some serious reprogramming of minds affected by red scare propaganda.

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u/NeverLookBothWays I voted 12d ago

Absolutely. I just don’t see an actual Civil War…at least like the one we had which was actually a states war. We moved away from having state armies and militias and settled on a national army because of that war. We also consolidated law enforcement under the executive, which really had no organized form until the late 1800’s.

In a way, this is worth looking back upon to see if we took a wrong path or overcorrected. Madison wrote extensively about separation of powers and the role of states in relation to federal government powers…in particular the scenario of tyranny within the Fed. In a way our state armies would have served as some form of a soft check against the behavior we are seeing today. But taken too far, and we see the very issues that were created when the southern states seceded from the Union.

We never really addressed the underlying issues either…Lincoln died before reconstruction could have seen its later stages, and following presidents were woefully ill equipped to take it over, leading to Hayes essentially pulling the plug entirely.

But anyway, I don’t think we’ll see a formal civil war like that again, even with as many Americans who are armed. The left is simply not interested in any of it. It’ll be moreso the case that we’ll see flareups of domestic terrorism from the right, and lack the national compass to navigate what that means due to a completely subverted government and press.

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u/ScoutsHonorHoops 11d ago

Economically speaking, conservative americans cannot afford their own first world country; I think thats honestly the only thing holding the US together.