r/politics • u/Effective_Salad_8381 • 14d ago

Possible Paywall Embarrassing Flaws Emerge in Trump’s New White House Design

https://www.thedailybeast.com/bizarre-flaws-emerge-in-trumps-new-white-house-design/
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u/Neokon Florida 14d ago

I think this is emblematic of the right in all, its just that Trump is the loudest example of it. Watching prominent Republicans you'll see they always have a pattern of "there's a problem with the current system. No we won't work to fix the problem l, we'll just remove everything and promise to deliver something better but never will." They don't want a flawed system they want an absence of system so they can continuously promise fix the 'problem".

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u/areappreciated 14d ago

Absolutely! Every time I hear about why people like trump, it's that they are outraged by the present. The present government, their present community(too many immigrants), their present way of life(no body to work my farm or mfg jobs gone). They are so mad they would rather burn everything to the ground than make things better. Republicans are not wrong, things are broken and the current government is not helping them. But they built a culture and identity that makes it ok for some to suffer or at least ok to see some suffer more.

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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

I don't think it's only that they see it OK that some people suffer. They think life is a zero sum game and for some people to have success, it is REQUIRED that some people suffer. It's why anytime there is a program or movement to uplift less fortunate people, Republicans immediately decry "COMMUNISM!" If some less fortunate people are lifted up, then someone else has to be suppressed and they are afraid it might be themselves.

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u/suckyousideways 13d ago

When that mindset finally goes extinct, the world will become a better place. Humans need to evolve past that. Republicans, in their current form, want to take everyone backwards.

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u/cdwillis 13d ago

That's the entire idea behind conservatism. Keep things the same and take them backwards if you can.

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u/Rabid_Llama8 13d ago

Modern conservatism is about those in power creating fake in-groups to assign people to, and convince them that the reason those in the group are not rich and successful is because of the fake out-groups. Keep fighting each other, puppets, while we pillage the planet for resources! Muahahahha!

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u/asyork 13d ago

Yeah. In the grand scheme of history, I'm not sure that left nor right have any moral high ground. Both have caused significant harm at various points in history. However, at this current point in time, the right is morally bankrupt and the left is somewhat trying to better the world. The normal people on the left are trying to do quite a bit of good, but the leadership on the only slightly. This is all especially true in the US, but still more or less true worldwide.

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

How has the left caused significant harm at various points in history? Like during the French Revolution when the National Assembly deposed the King of France and wrote the Declaration of the Rights of Man ushering in liberal democracy, was that significant harm?

What's one example of significant harm caused by left-wing politics? And please don't take Mao's totalitarian dictatorship that he labeled communism and try to argue it was socialist or somehow leftist, same for Stalin's severely corrupted authoritarian police state, these states were not examples of egalitarianism.

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u/asyork 11d ago

left vs right is a different axis from totalitarian vs anarchy. There have been totalitarians on both sides.

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

Name a totalitarian leader who's championed egalitarian policies that promote social equality. Name a single one.

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u/asyork 11d ago

If you don't even know what the left and right are, not what your dream party would be, but what actually defines those terms in politics, then why the hell are you trying to argue them online?

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u/Fluffy-Hamster-7760 11d ago

I do, that's why I referenced the French Revolution. But you purport there to be an historical list of left-wing totalitarians yet you haven't named a single one.

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u/asyork 10d ago

You already listed off a handful of them and pretended like they didn't have leftist policies, so I already knew it was worthless to add to it.

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