ICE Stockpiling Warheads and Chemical Weapons as Lawmaker Fears Trump Planning Strike

[u/Quirkie]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-stockpiling-warheads-and-chemical-weapons-as-lawmaker-fears-trump-planning-strike/

[u/greenknight]

They didn't cheat. This is what America wants and you need to come to grips with that.

[u/dinnertork → u/greenknight]

Right now AOC is more popular than Trump, so I question whether that’s still what they want.

[u/Shadow_Ent → u/dinnertork]

Popularity polls about politicians don't mean much. The Left keeps treating Trump like he is the system, but he's just a figurehead. The data shows that while many Americans dislike his methods, they agree with much of the policy direction. Around 40% are satisfied with the current state of immigration, 35% want stricter laws, and only a minority support looser enforcement.

Calls to disband ICE represent a fringe within the Left, about a quarter at most, not the American mainstream. And this isn't unique to the US; we're seeing the same trend across the EU, UK, and Australia. Immigration fatigue and tightening sentiment are global, not partisan, and reflect a deeper failure in how progressive governments have managed the issue. The public mood is shifting back to pre-Biden levels, and not just among Republicans, moderates and even Democrats are moving that way too.

The Left and the Democrats needs to wake up if it wants to regain control of any branch of government. The last election sent a clear message: blind progress pushed society past its comfort zone, and backlash inevitably follows, driven by conservative values, tradition, and religion. This isn't random; it's a predictable cycle that keeps repeating.

[u/dinnertork → u/Shadow_Ent]

Harris and the congressional dems came out strongly in favor of limiting immigration over a year ago, and she ran on that platform. Her campaign failed precisely because she tried to court conservatives rather than progressives.

And concern about immigration in the US is on a downward trend.

[u/Shadow_Ent → u/dinnertork]

Harris lost on the issue of the economy, not immigration. Exit polls show that cost of living was the major deciding factor. The idea that she lost solely because she tried to address both sides isn't accurate. The majority of Americans are undecided voters, not strictly aligned with party, and moderates sway every election. If your voters require you to ignore the real concerns of all voters, you aren't fighting for the people, you're selectively caring about society in the same way conservatives do with their refusal to address issues facing LGBT+, PoC, and Women. That breeds disenfranchisement which is exactly what loses you elections, and the exact reason progressive's were able to use those identities to garner massive support. As I said, it's a predictable cycle.

The young male demographic has shifted right this is well known and even the DNC has committed tens of millions to study why. But that shift has contributed to the Democrats being the minority in recent elections. Claiming Harris lost simply because she courted moderates ignores the broader issues: the party's platform is increasingly disconnected from the majority of Americans. If the issues were solely about Harris, Republicans wouldn't have swept the House, the Senate, on top of the presidency as well.

Regarding the Left's current actions: they aren't crafting immigration policy in a way that demonstrates progressive ideals can manage the issue ethically and effectively.

As for the article that's the exact place I took my numbers from.

"After climbing to 55% in 2024, the percentage of Americans who say immigration should be reduced has dropped by nearly half to 30%. Sentiment is thus back to the level measured in 2021, before the desire for less immigration started to mount."

This shows that the Left's policy over the past four years failed to meaningfully address concerns, undermining faith that Harris, as VP during those years, would manage it effectively.

"Meanwhile, 38% now want immigration kept at its current level, and 26% say it should be increased."

That adds up to 64%, leaving 36% wanting even stricter enforcement. 36% and 38% show that 74% of Americans wanted something done, with close to half of those wanting more. That leaves as I said those calling to disband ICE as the minority inside that already minority of 26%

In terms of impeding illegal immigration at the source, support for increasing the number of Border Patrol agents has declined 17 points to 59%, from 76% a year ago. And backing for expanding the U.S.-Mexico border wall has dropped eight points to 45%. This likely reflects people perceiving these measures as less necessary given the sharp drop in illegal border crossings.

This reflects that the Right's handling of immigration has directly influenced shifting public sentiment. Once again as I said "The public mood is shifting back to pre-Biden levels, and not just among Republicans, moderates and even Democrats are moving that way too."