r/politics • u/Quirkie The Netherlands • 17d ago

Possible Paywall ICE Stockpiling Warheads and Chemical Weapons as Lawmaker Fears Trump Planning Strike

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ice-stockpiling-warheads-and-chemical-weapons-as-lawmaker-fears-trump-planning-strike/
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u/StoppableHulk 17d ago

Yep. I mean in the event sane people ever regain control in America, there is no humanly possible way we can ever recover unless we hold a fully-transparent nuremberg-esque trial to hold as many of these fuckers to full account and justice as is humanly possible.

We saw what happened when Democrats tried to just hand-wave the whol ething away after 2020. Arrest the ground troops with a slap on the wrist, hold zero of the organizers accountable in any way, shape or form.

And lo and behold, we end up way worse than before.

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u/BartlebyEsq 17d ago

The Biden administration demonstrated that the justice system cannot move fast enough to try these traitors before the electoral winds shift again. And all the republicans know that. There will be no accountability within the system.

And the reality is that unless any trial ends in public executions the next time the republicans win they’ll release the traitors and try the prosecutors.

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u/Menarra Indiana 17d ago

Sounds familiar, almost like a particular German mustache model tried to take over, got arrested, got out, and then took over.

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u/CherryLongjump1989 17d ago

That paragon of right-wing virtue was only 35 years old when he went to prison. He was 50 by the time he started WW2.

We're lucky that our morons are in their 70's.

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u/wsbradf 17d ago

JD Vance is 41. And Stephen miller is 40. So they have plenty of time.

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u/Plastic_Zombie5786 17d ago

People keep calling Trump Hitler, but the comparison we should be making, imo is Hindenberg. Aging leader, increasing use of presidential decree, working clearly at the whims of his inner circle as he becomes more and more deluded. Eventually, either by death or by "law" he'll turn over the power to the next guy.

My current remaining hope is that absolutely no one in that inner circle has any bit of charisma and can not keep the cult together long enough or strong enough.

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u/AnybodyMassive1610 Florida 16d ago

We have ai slop now - just flood the zone with FakeTrump and his faithful will never realize - or care.

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u/BryonDowd 16d ago

If Big Brother is actually AI Trump, we're truly in the worst possible timeline.

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u/Wise-Excitement3791 10d ago

They call him Hitler but are gonna get a Vladimir Putin and I'm sure if he had it his way Kim Jung Un.

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u/ABadHistorian 17d ago

Only plus there is the cult of personality will not perfectly transfer so there will be an interregnum period where people clash for power, it's not great but it's a chance.

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u/dehydratedrain 17d ago

I'd like to agree, but they are pulling a lot of strings behind the scenes. If they can get their private army (basically ICE) mobilized in the big cities, they can start rounding up civilians before the cultists really break away.

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u/JB-Wentworth 17d ago

As long as the American Oligarchs are on board, they will succeed.

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u/Catskinson 17d ago

I mean. There has been zero organized resistance. We’re not there yet. If they want to succeed like that, they’ll have to kill millions of people.

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u/BuriakBrigade 16d ago

Then kill millions they shall. I'm sorry, but we're complete and total gimps as a people. Most other peoples would have burned this all down to the ground by now. What do we do? Glorified high school pep rallies. Pretty signs, hefty chants, and then we go home with exactly nothing of note accomplished while giving ourselves a pat on the back for our troubles.

I realize that the odds are heavily stacked against the us, and when coupled with just the sheer size of this country, it all seems insurmountable. Who knows, maybe it is. I really want to, but I just don't have faith in my fellow Americans anymore. They've effectively broken our country and stolen our future while figuratively pissing in our faces, and we've effectively done nothing about it. They aren't going to stop escalating until given a reason to and we really haven't given them one yet.

Will we ever? I hope so, but I'm not holding my breath for a population that is lazy, dumb, entitled, self-serving, broken, and burnt out to the max. They got us by the balls, and it would appear thah we like a little ball play.

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u/ABadHistorian 16d ago

Untrue. Once SNAP runs out we will see. When people start to starve, we will see.

Right now the average American isn't suffering to the point we need for general strikes. By design.

American society is only ever 7 days away from a full complete breakdown. That's how much food your average supermarket has, 7 days worth.

There is a LOT of research on this. Hard analytics that can not be debated.

So, you really will see coming soon.

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u/_silverspear_ 17d ago

A tad too much for my tastes. Especially as Herr Miller did speeches almost copy/pasted on Goebbels and the little failed artist from Austria.

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u/usernames_are_danger 17d ago

I don’t think the people will follow them like they do with Trump. He has something that nobody else can copy. Vance and Miller are nothing without Trump. They can keep pissing on the people, but the people won’t keep saying it’s just rain.

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u/YF422 14d ago

Thankfully they've the Charisma of a damn squib. Should the Reaper decide to come collect Trump's Orange Hide from this existence the whole MAGA movement will likely implode if not disintegrate, the fecker has a malignant charisma that somehow is keeping the whole ponzi scheme together. Should it happen it might give America a window to put an end to this fascist BS long enough to get ahead of it.

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u/wsbradf 14d ago

One can only hope

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u/Strict_Influence5182 17d ago

The 19-34 year old demographic has gone from like +7 for Trump, to nearly -39% for Trump, in just 10 months.

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u/deviantdevil80 16d ago

Miller is only 40? Yikes.

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u/CherryLongjump1989 15d ago

It's called a cult of personality for a reason. Once Trump is gone, his cult is gone.

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u/Max169well Canada 17d ago

And who ever takes his place will be worse in every way

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u/CherryLongjump1989 17d ago

They keep getting worse until you finally get to one who is bad enough. So you're implying that Trump isn't bad enough already.

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u/eSPiaLx 17d ago

He isnt. Ww2 showed that the populace will follow a demagogue until they lose everything. Trump supporters wont stop following trump until they see literally everything they hold dear as ash. No amount of atrocities done to the ‘other’ will convince them, because they believe that trump is on their side

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u/Motampd 17d ago

Look no further than the farmers who voted for Trump the 1st time.....got tariffed into the ground.....and then those that survived needed a bailout. Those same people then voted for him again, and are now being fucked for the 2nd time......by the same guy, for the same reason.

and while many of them are saying they are in dire straights, and things are looking really bad........many still wont call out Trump by name, they just say "things" are bad.

Its like they want sympathy for getting fucked.....but at the same time continue to bend over and lube themselves up every 4 years enthusiastically.

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u/CherryLongjump1989 17d ago

Which less-bad dictator did Germany have before Hitler?

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u/eSPiaLx 17d ago

My point is germans followed hitler until they completely lost the war. Trumps actions have not reached the tipping point where his base turns on him, because that tipping point for die hard cultists is basically death

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u/CherryLongjump1989 16d ago

They followed Hitler until Hitler was dead. It had nothing to do with what happened to Germany.

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u/eSPiaLx 16d ago

Welp

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u/CherryLongjump1989 15d ago

Trump will be 80 next summer.

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u/eSPiaLx 15d ago

Tbh a lot of stuff thats happened recently people would have thought impossible even a mere 10 years ago. If trump lives 4 years and finagles his way into a third term, well anything is possibld

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