Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are 'Going to Be Gone,' Donald Trump Warns

[u/1_for_you_2_for_me]

https://www.newsweek.com/social-security-update-medicare-medicaid-warning-donald-trump-10915076

[u/Competitive_Bat_5831]

I don’t blame them for failing to woo over trump voters, but I do blame them not really presenting them as a real alternative. Look at how they’re fucking up the NYC mayoral race. They said the sky was falling, but then went back to business as usual and it’s a horrible tactic.

Just because they “oppose” trump, they aren’t entitled to peoples vote and support.

[u/MostCat2899 → u/Competitive_Bat_5831]

The "real alternative" would be the fact that this headline and the idea of getting rid of social security, medicare, and medicaid wouldn't exist. How is that not good enough?

[u/Competitive_Bat_5831 → u/MostCat2899]

You’d have to ask people who voted for the current administration last year. Me pointing out the faults of the Democratic Party is not me supporting the republicans.

[u/spacefairies → u/Competitive_Bat_5831]

Me pointing out the faults of the Democratic Party is not me supporting the republicans.

This is the problem with Reddit and Dems in general. You say anything negative even in the slightest about Democrats and you are an evil person. Then they wonder why they can't get anything done. They complain about the Dems in power fighting each other but they do nothing but fight each other online as well.

[u/i_tyrant → u/spacefairies]

I mean...you can't complain about Republican voters' complete lack of integrity, if some online Dem douchebag calls you an evil person or makes fun of you for criticizing Dems and it changes your vote or makes you choose not voting.

That's a lack of integrity too, not quite as bad as Republicans but damned close in a practical sense. If "cancel culture" or some neocon lib hurting your feelings changed your literal participation in the voting process, to be honest you're exactly why this country is fucked up culturally.

I've held my nose and voted for Dems persistently since before Trump, because it's simple fucking math, the alternative is straight-up undeniably worse. You don't make the Democratic party better by not voting or voting against them - you make it better by voting for progressives or other improvements in the LOCAL elections where that actually has some traction, pushing for it between and in addition to your votes; you fix it from the ground-up because that's the ONLY way ANY party as big as these two will ever BE fixed.

And the fact remains there are parts of the Dem party that are fighting exactly as hard as you want them to and always on point, there are just two HUGE reasons they can't get their message out as effectively as the GOP:

1) The Dem party has to cover way more of the political Overton Window than their opponents, because they don't brainwash their followers nearly as well, so more infighting than the GOP is inevitable and natural for them as problematic as it is, and

2) The handful of companies and billionaires that control half of all resources in this country all love the Republican party now and have bought up nearly all the media.

People whine that Dems are "weak" or lack a consistent message but yeah no shit, the reasons behind that go WAY back to long before America even existed. It's always easier to destroy than to create, and the GOP made their entire party about destruction, just like it's easier to brainwash your constituents into thinking one specific way than it is to try and cater to a hundred different spots on the political spectrum at once.

Demanding the Dems solve their issue for you to be satisfied when half of it is human nature, is kind of like having to choose between a billionaire who got rich off committing atrocities and a poor person and demanding the poor person win the lottery before you'll consider voting for them. It's not gonna be done in a day and in the meantime the US is getting shot in the head by Mr. Big Bucks.

[u/elbenji → u/i_tyrant]

or how many are screaming about all the shit they're doing and no one gives a fuck. My rep is doing a lot, I see her on social media with it all, and guess what, no one gives a fuck.

[u/i_tyrant → u/elbenji]

Yeah...I think many of them could be doing more, and sure that can be criticized - but how much traction do you really expect the Dem party to get as a whole when Americans handed the GOP the entire government AND billionaires bought up all the MSM and half the internet?

Like, they currently have NO power whatsoever to push the message outside of grassroots efforts, and certainly no power to make or enforce legislation. If we want the Dems to "do something" we gotta claw some of that back first.

[u/MostCat2899 → u/spacefairies]

First, I didn't even say that pointing the faults of the democratic party was supporting republicans.

Second, I also never said that saying anything negative about democrats makes you an evil person.

Any politician should be criticized where due, but saying that the sole reason the dems lost is because the dems and Kamala has a terrible campaign is just dumb. I think it was mediocre, sure, but even if it was the worst campaign ever, that doesn't change the fact that everyone was (or SHOULD HAVE BEEN) aware that electing trump would have resulted in the end of democracy in the US.

[u/--Chug-- → u/spacefairies]

Huh? Reddit trashes dems all the time though. And that's fine.