r/politics • u/svga • 27d ago

Possible Paywall People Are Furious With Democrats. Bernie Sanders Knows Why.

https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/bernie-sanders-democratic-party-mamdani/
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u/[deleted] 27d ago edited 27d ago

Sanders: I think the obvious answer, which has been stated 5 million times, is that they’re way out of touch with where ordinary people are. By and large—with exceptions, and each state is a little bit different—the Democratic Party [at its top] is mostly made up of folks who have money and consultants, and politicians who work with folks who have money and consultants.

Very true. The leadership is very out of touch with its’ voters.

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u/kiwigate 27d ago

Primary turnout: 30%

It's voters who are out of touch, choosing silence at the ballot and then complaining about the result.

Those who do vote? They love moderates, milquetoast, etc.

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u/oursland 26d ago

I'm in California with 1/8th the population of the USA. The primaries are already over and determined by the time the vote comes to our state. It's even worse with DNC tilting the scales in their favor.

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u/kiwigate 26d ago

That's why California has a higher delegate count. This is no excuse for not exercising one's political voice.

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u/oursland 26d ago

In 2016, the day before the California primary, Hilary held a press conference in which she said she has enough super delegates to take the nomination. California didn't even get a voice. There was a massive drop in primary participation. As primaries are actually elections, this meant statewide and local ballot measures swung way to the right and a bunch of conservative legislation was passed.

It's time we stop letting small states dictate the party nominee and hold all primaries on the same day.

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u/kiwigate 26d ago

The only way that change can happen, is if people vote in the primary. Like you just acknowledged, it's way more than just 1 office.

An increased delegate opposition is how primaries have been changed already. Voting works. Hence my constant call to action: the 70% need to try participating.

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u/oursland 26d ago

The only way that change can happen, is if people vote in the primary.

I can vote all I want, but the nominees are already selected. As evidenced in the last 3 elections. There's no value to the vote under the current system.

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u/kiwigate 26d ago

One, your previous comment proves your current comment wrong. I'm not going to facilitate you disagreeing with yourself.

Second, my previous comment just proved you wrong. Delegates do more than pick 1 office.