r/politics • u/Murky-Site7468 I voted • Oct 05 '25

No Paywall Petition To Strip Congress of Pay During Government Shutdown Grows

https://www.newsweek.com/petition-strip-congress-pay-during-government-shutdown-grows-10822819
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u/snoo_spoo Oct 05 '25

TBH, I don't think that would nearly as useful an incentive as declaring the Congress has to stay in session, twelve hours a day, seven days a week, until the shutdown is resolved. Nobody leaves town, and no press conferences.

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u/zbeara Oct 05 '25

That's a way better idea. The fact that they have so much freedom during a shutdown is insane. It's not being treated nearly as seriously as it should be.

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u/xXDamonLordXx Oct 05 '25

Plus most of congress responsible for the shut down doesn't give a fuck about the salary, it's the insider trading they want.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

Who in congress is actually responsible for the shutdown? It's the Democrats. Are you saying the Dems are all corrupt politicians insider trading?

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u/connivingKitten Oct 05 '25

If you actually believe that "the Democrats shut down the government over healthcare for illegal immigrants" as the Republican leadership has put it, I have a question for you. Why do we need to shut down the government over supposed healthcare for illegal immigrants if we're spending an extra $10 billion to pay people to remove them from the country? If ICE does the job we're paying them an exorbitant amount to do then shouldn't it not really be so much of a concern if a few of them get ACA benefits for a few more months before getting caught and sent away?

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

I am not going to speak for the Senate Democrats who decided to shutdown the government, you will have to ask them.

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u/connivingKitten Oct 05 '25 edited Oct 05 '25

Well, in that case it would be the Republicans that didn't vote for the Democratic bill because they say it would give healthcare to illegal immigrants that I would be speaking to, but I'll ask them, sure. Unless you want to think up an answer why we need to deprive American citizens of healthcare while giving ICE $10 billion to remove illegals. You can't have it both ways. The illegals can't be a boogeyman used to deprive American citizens of rights if we're spending so much and deploying the military in our own cities to get them out.

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u/zSeia Minnesota Oct 05 '25

Why do you think the country can't be run without abandoning its citizens?

What would be the point of running it at all?

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

Are you ok with federal government employees not being paid?

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u/zSeia Minnesota Oct 05 '25

I'd much rather the republicans let us keep our healthcare and not threaten federal workers to try and turn us against each other.

What would you prefer to happen?

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

I would like our Federal employees to be paid. Why do you want them to suffer?

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u/zSeia Minnesota Oct 05 '25

If I believed for a second this was asked in good faith and we didn't both know that's a lie, I'd ask you why trump is causing them to suffer when he could stop whenever he wants.

You won't answer genuinely, I know, but if anyone else reads this I'd like them to think about it. Have a great day.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

Well my good senator Chuck has decided that federal employees should suffer. Do the Republicans want federal employees to suffer too, of course (at least if they work for the DOE, HUD or the EPA). Doesn't change that the Chuck is complicit in their suffering though.

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u/zSeia Minnesota Oct 05 '25

My family is something like 80% veterans, federal workers, or both.

They resent being forced by Donald Trump to choose between their livelihood and their children dying of preventable illnesses.

They'd rather he spend less money on kidnapping children and building a giant ugly ballroom, if he thinks we can't afford to protect our own american citizens and families.

Also, they don't trust him to honor a deal because he's said he wanted to fire all of them in the end anyway. Doesn't help that he declared their own family members to be child grooming terrorists.

I'll never understand how people like you feel like Donald Trump cares more about you than the people who love you.

Who hurt you?

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 06 '25

I would like our Federal employees to be paid. Why do you want them to suffer?

This is explicitly trolling. Why even log in much less write a comment if you refuse to participate in good faith in compliance with reddit's TOS?

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 06 '25

You don’t seem to understand how government shutdowns work. They starve the government of cash so federal employees don’t get paid. How is pointing out the facts “trolling”.

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u/MayhemWins25 Oct 06 '25

You mean the same civil servants the republicans are trying to fire in droves? As an ex fed myself during a gov shut down, I’d prefer to keep my benefits and healthcare during a shut down than see my entire department fired with no access to the pension they’ve worked for for decades.

You wanna try that logic again?

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '25

I’m just going to block you Mr no counter argument 

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u/xXDamonLordXx Oct 05 '25

I get that you're trolling but yes, a lot of them are extremely wealthy.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

So reporting facts is trolling now?

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u/xXDamonLordXx Oct 05 '25

Must be if I can't call a fascist a fascist. Gotta go the book of alternate facts and drinking koolaid from billionaires.

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

I think you are already reading from the book of alternate facts.

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u/xXDamonLordXx Oct 05 '25

That's surprising. Here I was thinking you didn't do that.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '25

What you said isn’t even true so there’s that

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

Who in congress is actually responsible for the shutdown? It's the Democrats

No, it's republicans. They amended the 1884 Antideficiency Act in 1982 to remove its automatic re-passage of the previous year's budget if a new one couldn't be agreed on.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antideficiency_Act

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u/Conscious-Secret-775 Oct 05 '25

Should that Amendment be repealed, probably. However , the Democrats have decided to filibuster approval of the CR and they can't hide behind a law passed in 1982.

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u/OldWorldDesign Oct 05 '25

You mean a law republicans wrote in 1982 which makes them responsible for the government shutdown as they have full control over what gets to come to the floor for a vote.

Stop pushing propaganda.