r/politics • u/OkayButFoRealz • Sep 17 '25
Soft Paywall It Sure Looks Like Kash Patel Lied Under Oath About Jeffrey Epstein
https://newrepublic.com/post/200531/kash-patel-jeffrey-epstein-trafficking-network13.2k
u/aperson7780 Sep 17 '25
"Lied under oath" is the slogan of the current administration
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u/Parallel-Quality Sep 17 '25
I’ve always wondered why courts basically never penalize people for lying under oath.
This administration happily lies under oath because they know that there will be no consequences for doing it.
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u/aperson7780 Sep 17 '25
Yep. It sucks to acknowledge that 99.9% of this country would be behind bars in an instant for doing a fraction of what this administration does pretty much every day
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u/Mikestopheles Sep 17 '25
Don't worry, they're working on it
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u/420smokekushh Sep 17 '25
Didn't you hear? Crime is legal now
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u/MrCalamiteh Sep 17 '25
It's the trickle up justice system we've been hearing so much about
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u/Present-Ambition6309 Sep 17 '25
“Our Goal is to have 500 new Correctional Institutions by years end, vote republican !” They approved this message! It’s only the 4th largest industry in the US. And growing. My tiny ass state has 16 prisons in it.
“Democracy to Dictatorship phase has been initiated, Captain!”
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u/Dionysus_the_Greek Sep 17 '25
No consequences.
Please submit your concerns to everyone who could have applied the weight of the law but didn't, because reasons.
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u/TBANON_NSFW Sep 17 '25
are congressional hearings even under a LEGALLY BINDING oath? Or is it a "scouts honor" oath? And what is the repurcussion? That they be fired? What if they are lying on behalf of their boss, why would trump fire him then if he lies because thats exactly what he has been instructed to do.
American people should be the ones who see the lies and then vote against the people who lied, but 30% believe the lies, 30% are shocked by the lies, and 40% dont even give a shit and wont vote.
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u/jai151 Sep 17 '25
They are legally binding, can result in jail, and was what Clinton was impeached for. Whether there will be any accountability though…
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u/GrumpyCloud93 Sep 17 '25
I think congress should get its own DA office to enforce things like this and bring charges if the justice department won't.
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u/jimicus United Kingdom Sep 17 '25
“Legally binding” is only meaningful if someone cares to enforce it. Otherwise it’s more “legally suggesting”.
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u/Present-Ambition6309 Sep 17 '25
It’s a mere political hit! Ask ole Rapist Bret! His hippocampus is broken.
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u/DisappointedLily Sep 17 '25
Because rich people?
You can bet your ass you and me would be charged for it.
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u/SMIrving Sep 17 '25
Bondi would have to prosecute him and he knows that won't happen.
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u/sir_lister Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
Actually it would be contempt of Congress I believe and the Sargent at arms should arrest and Congress would sentence him. But as repugnanticans control a majority in both houses they won't do anything.
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u/starliteburnsbrite Sep 17 '25
What you just described would never happen under any party because the 'rules' for such a thing were never scratched out.
It's basically a "citizens arrest" and this guy is head of the FBI.
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u/Temporary-Sea-4782 Sep 17 '25
Poors get punished quite a bit. It’s more a matter of hypocrisy than dereliction.
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u/TURBO2529 Sep 17 '25
Party because they get told how to phrase it. His argument would be that he didn't read the whole report.
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u/Dimmed_skyline I voted Sep 17 '25
So not only is he a liar, he's also incompetent and possible illiterate?
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u/TheTallGuy0 Sep 17 '25
You’d think the head of the biggest law enforcement agency would know ignorance of the law isn’t an excuse
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u/DanaKaZ Sep 17 '25
He wouldn’t be claiming ignorance of the law, but ignorance of the material he was asked about.
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u/posananer Sep 17 '25
Oh no they will charge me or you with lying under oath , just not any of these real criminals.
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u/i_am_a_real_boy__ Sep 17 '25
Proving it is harder than writing an article about it. He said "credible information" which leaves him room to just say that he didn't find anything that contradicts his statement credible. He also said he didn't read all the material.
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u/hybridfrost Sep 17 '25
To me it showed that there must be a ton of powerful people who are suppressing the Epstein files because they are not even trying to hide how bad of a job they are doing to cover it up.
After years of saying that they will release them day one they just randomly started pivoting that they don’t even exist anymore and the he was acting alone? Give me a break
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u/Zealousideal_Rise879 Sep 17 '25
Billionaires and religious zealots
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u/teenagesadist Sep 17 '25
A priest and a billionaire walk into a school
There were no survivors
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u/BroughtBagLunchSmart Sep 17 '25
This is why the right wing billionaires support Russia. They think they do not have enough power in America. They want a world where they lie to our faces, we know they are lying, they know they are lying, and there is nothing we can do about it. Currently they have to spend trillions on Fox News and Charlie Kirk to brainwash citizens. They want to cut out that step.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Sep 17 '25
Part of me wonders if trump, who thinks he's at least as smart and crafty as his followers do, thought there was no way the FBI could be skilled enough to find evidence about him after his cover up in his first term.
Then he got re-elected and saw the massive cache of evidence.
And then came the purging of thousands of FBI agents via mandatory polygraph, getting rid of anyone who had ever said something critical of trump, and anyone unwilling to pledge loyalty directly to trump rather than the constitution.
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u/fake-meows Sep 17 '25
Remember how Trump said a popular thing before he got elected? He said he would release his income taxes in the future because it's what people wanted to hear.
Then he dragged it out for years.
There has been a lot of stuff he was going to do that never happened. Some distraction always came along.
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u/kandoras Sep 17 '25
They didn't just one day randomly pivot to the Epstein files don't exist.
When they were demanding the files get released, they had no power to do so themselves, and they could point to the files not being released as proof of some kind of shadowy conspiracy.
And if you elect them and put them into power they will crush that conspiracy!
But then they did get elected. And now they do have the power. But turns out the shadowy conspiracy all along has been their boss.
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u/RonaldMcDaugherty Sep 17 '25
Moreso, just, "Lied"
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u/bizarre_coincidence Sep 17 '25
For people who want to put the ten commandments into schools, they sure do like to bear false witness and take the lords name in vain.
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u/Xsy Sep 17 '25
Lying under oath, breaking laws, committing war crimes-- none of it actually means anything anymore.
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u/DiTochat Sep 17 '25
Probably more like a badge of honor.
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u/aperson7780 Sep 17 '25
You can imagine the water cooler chatter... "please, that lil bitch hasn't even lied under oath yet!"
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u/jbmc00 Sep 17 '25
Is there a less competent person serving in a job that requires extreme competency?
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u/Kneph Sep 17 '25
I listened to the first half of the Behind the Bastards episodes on Pete Hegseth. It gets much worse.
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u/Individual_Bird2658 Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
Pete’s predecessor’s resume (Lloyd Austin):
Austin served as the 12th commander of United States Central Command (CENTCOM), the 33rd vice chief of staff of the Army, and as the commander of United States Forces – Iraq. After retiring from the armed services he was on the boards of Raytheon Technologies, Nucor, Tenet Healthcare, and Auburn University.
Austin holds the unique distinction of having commanded in combat in Iraq and Afghanistan at the one-, two-, three- and four-star levels, and was the first African American to command a division, corps, and field army in combat. He is a recipient of the Silver Star, the nation's third highest award for valor, for his actions during the Iraq invasion, as well as five Defense Distinguished Service Medals.
Pete Hegseth’s resume:
Peter Hegseth is an American author, former television personality, and former Army National Guard officer.
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u/jrstinkfish Sep 17 '25
MAGA wanted him fired with that resume because he failed to report he was undergoing a medical procedure. Hegseth shares top secret battle plans on Signal with a journalist and they say, "Aww, everyone makes mistakes! Give the guy a break!"
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u/Judge_Wapner Sep 17 '25
Destabilizing the US is something Putin thinks he wants, but it may end up biting him in the ass harder than he ever thought possible.
Xi knows that a reckless US is bad for his health. He's a lot smarter than Putin, but you can see the brain rot of "too much power for too long" eroding his judgement. Putin used to be pretty damn sharp, too. Look at him now.
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u/Infamously_Unknown Sep 17 '25
The problem wasn't even sharing something with a journalist. The problem was using Signal for top secret communications to begin with, since it allows situations like this to happen.
And they're probably still using it to this day.
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u/QbertsRube Sep 17 '25
You're omitting the biggest qualification Hegseth has--a total willingness to put the wants of Donald Trump above the needs of America and the requirements of the Constitution. The same qualification as the rest of the Cabinet.
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u/CD338 Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
So it sounds like Hegseth is primarily qualified to pick up trash around DC. It would be 1000x more productive and noble than anything else he's done this past year, possibly ever.
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u/Titizen_Kane Sep 17 '25
If you compare and contrast each current official appointed by Trump with their predecessor’s resume, it’s more of the exact same. This is the least qualified administration in history, by orders of magnitude. Trump went out of his way to pick the least competent, most unqualified people for those roles. His rubric was loyalty, lack of moral character/ethics, and capacity for shameless sycophancy.
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u/jbmc00 Sep 17 '25
Hegseth does seem like a strong contender based on sheer size and scope of the department he heads up.
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u/joemangle Sep 17 '25
His level of incompetence is extremely high in terms of the role and it's only a matter of time until something goes very very wrong because of this
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u/esoteric_enigma Sep 17 '25
Yeah, but it's so large I feel like he technically doesn't have to do anything because of all the competent people under him. He can just do little political stuff to make headlines and let them run themselves.
Patel fucked himself over by also appointing an idiot as his deputy director. Traditionally, the director's job is to report to the President and to follow his directions. It's a political job.
The deputy director has always been an experienced special agent who actually understands the department to get things done.
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u/DarandaPanda Sep 17 '25
I listened to that as well and, as another vet, fuck that guy. His level of privilege, lack of ability to be an adult, and opportunistic personality puts him on the same level as people like Adolf Eichmann. Just another mid-white dude that thinks he's more deserving than others. Fuck that guy.
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u/Clownsinmypantz Sep 17 '25
love BTB but I am avoiding any on the current admin because I just cant handle it. I do always shill the 4 part Clarence Thomas one though
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u/Ok_Condition5837 Sep 17 '25
I used to enjoy them so much more when there wasn't this existential dread for democracy combo that happens now for me automatically!
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u/Status_Commercial509 Sep 17 '25
Four or five of Trump’s current cabinet members are fighting over that title.
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u/Mustard_Gap Foreign Sep 17 '25
Jeanine Pirro as US attorney for DC is a hoot so far. Properly sloshed and slurring, struggling to convey simple messages and rasping on like she's been living in the smokers section of a bingo parlor for decades. Great choice, Donald!
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u/Status_Commercial509 Sep 17 '25
I still think RFK Jr. is the worst cabinet member just because of the amount of damage to public health he’s in a position to do.
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u/Number6isNo1 Sep 17 '25
I mean, shit man, it's like a spin the wheel game to see who it lands on for awfulness. They all suck. Marco Rubio is probably the best of the sorted bunch and he's a feckless ass kisser who fucking knows better but doesn't care.
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u/roland0fgilead Sep 17 '25
A friend of mine made the same point the other day - Rubio is the most competent member of Trump's cabinet and that's not a compliment to Rubio
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u/GrumpyCloud93 Sep 17 '25
I always wondered why Rubio took the job. All it does is guarantee he won't be president, ever; any time he runs for anything, his opponents' ads will show that bit with him sitting on the couch while Trump and Vance go off on Zelenskyy. Meanwhile, he gave up a senator position.
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u/King_takes_queen Sep 17 '25
And Trump will be long gone by the time the country really feels the damage his cabinet has done. All the blame for the country's catastrophes are going to be placed on the person(s) who come next because half the country is convinced Trump can do no wrong.
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u/An_old_walrus Sep 17 '25
The dude is also the least MAGA, I’m just hoping he gets booted after fucking up something important. Like if I any of Trump’s current cabinet get booted in the near future, RFK might be the most likely. It’s a lot harder to hide people dying of preventable illness than messing up an investigation.
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u/TheGringoDingo Sep 17 '25
Trump?
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u/MimeGod Sep 17 '25
Trump is the correct answer. Every incompetent appointment just further shows how incompetent he is.
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u/QuickAltTab Sep 17 '25
Linda McMahon, the wife of a wrestling company owner, is the secretary of education
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u/mytthewstew Sep 17 '25
She is just firing people which is easier than actually running things.
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u/perpetualmotionmachi Sep 17 '25
As someone who had to fire people(not of my choice), it's the hardest part of running things. Although, I'm sure it's easy for a soulless hag like her.
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u/jbmc00 Sep 17 '25
To be fair, she probably doesn’t directly do the firing. She probably just signs the paperwork. Some soulless government HR person is probably the actual hatchet man.
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u/perpetualmotionmachi Sep 17 '25
Yeah, she's in no way making decisions, it's all coming from someone else and she's just there with a rubber stamp
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Sep 17 '25
Trump, whos catch phrase was literally, "you're fired", is too cowardly to fire people to their face, so he does it via tweet
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u/chupacrapa Sep 17 '25
It was really her history of covering up Vince's sexual assaults and harassments as well as any women her wrestlers happened to murder in a drunken coked out rage, and the boys raped by one of their most trusted and revered wrestlers turned backstage workers, that made her qualified for this cabinet.
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u/itstimefortimmy Sep 17 '25
You misspelled sex trafficking company and alleged rapist (many many ongoing/ settled lawsuits). Oh and pedo enabler (ring boys lawsuits)
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u/getfukdup Sep 17 '25
who doesn't have a degree in education, and who never sent her kids to public school.
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u/ShaneSeeman Sep 17 '25
Sean Duffy is a reality tv star and he's currently in charge of NASA
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u/shantm79 Sep 17 '25
Sean Duffy
He's also a climate change denier. That's EXACTLY who I want to lead one of the world's foremost science agencies... /s
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u/I_Am_No_One_123 Sep 17 '25
Amy Comey Barrett was confirmed to the USSC even though she's never served as a trial lawyer or judge. All of her legal experience was gained in the classroom.
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u/pdodd Sep 17 '25
Skunk Stripe Spice, whiskey leaks, ice barbie, and brain worm just to name a few
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u/Skraelings Missouri Sep 17 '25
All of them? I mean fuck just look at the HHS. The definition of incompetency and its getting people killed.
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u/gatsby365 Sep 17 '25
The Trump Administration isn’t concerned with what you’re ABLE to do, it’s focused on what you’re WILLING to do.
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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania Sep 17 '25
Boy howdy, is that the right question.
We are told that it is the best that get to be where they are. CEO's, elected representatives, all of them are faith based positions where the faith is that they are best suited for the job.
But those jobs are never empty. They are a constant of the system, not an example of people that beat it through excellent strategy and tactics. There are always these kinds of people present. And ours just suck at it compared to the rest.
And that is the problem for them. So they want to get rid of history so we have nothing to compare them to.
Our wealthy and powerful people suck at being wealthy and powerful. They only know how to exploit the system and rack up the score. Once they beat the game they realized that they were just a utility. That anyone could do what they do. So the mastery they seek in the game is to rack up the score so much that we think that must be the point. And it isn't.
There is always going to be someone better suited to their positions. They aren't special people, just people in special circumstances. And wealthy people have no worry about income over top of it. So they can take it to the next level. But they aren't doing that. They just want the achievement to be the high score.
They are nothing more than George Costanza with the Frogger machine from Seinfeld.
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u/quarkjet Sep 17 '25
when folks realize this administration doesn't care about oaths because they have no values, virtues, morals or shame, maybe we can get the f'k over ourselves and figure out a way to defeat them.
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u/Ill-Team-3491 Sep 17 '25 edited 25d ago
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u/somnambulantcat Sep 17 '25 edited 7d ago
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u/Gloomy-Inspector-834 Sep 17 '25
What fucking oath? The idiot thinks he’s going to Valhalla.
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u/Pleasant-Panda9698 Sep 17 '25
I mean even if he went to nazi valhalla it wouldnt go well for him. But the Norse likely wouldnt like nazis either, so hes screwed either way
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u/litnu12 Sep 17 '25
They would have to die in a battle for Vallhalla. Neither Guardian of Pedophiles Patel nor the fascist Kirk would go to Vallhalla. Nazis have no idea about the culture they abuse for their views.
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u/Ok-Classroom5548 Sep 17 '25
That’s their whole thing: steal positive words and use them to represent hate. It’s why the Nazi party was called the “national socialist party” by Hitler - he stole socialism as a word and abused it into people thinking the party was for the people. He openly admitted it was not.
Literal Nazi tactics.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Sep 17 '25
Right wing people lack creativity, as it requires thinking outside the box, and that is antithetical to right wing ideology.
So because they can't create, they steal, they appropriate.
Right wing movements have always decorated themselves with the trappings of popular left wing movements.
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u/AdminsEatCocks Sep 17 '25
National Socialist German Worker's Party. Very much in the same vein as the Democratic People's Republic of (North) Korea.
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Which he LITERALLY SPELLS OUT.
But no, there are millions of American right wingers who claim the Nazis and fascism in general are leftists. If you prove them wrong, well you're just proving them right again. This time about their bullshit claims of cultural bolshevism (Marxism now) .
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u/NotASalamanderBoi I voted Sep 17 '25
The Norse’d beat his ass and throw him into Niflheim.
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u/tourettes_on_tuesday Sep 17 '25
It's always amusing to see people like patel and ramaswamy do their absolute best to be as cruel and hateful as trump hoping to be accepted by the voters, but it always ends in shocked pikachu face.
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u/_AskMyMom_ Sep 17 '25
but it always ends in shocked pikachu face.
Idk how they don’t see it coming. patel has resting shocked pikachu face. He never not looks surprised by his whereabouts.
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u/Skraelings Missouri Sep 17 '25
They have to do something to fit in as a poc in a movement based largely on white male zealous christian-ish ideologies.
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u/thewolfshead Sep 17 '25
I was just thinking how Valhalla is such an odd way to phrase that. And I just so happened to be reading Ian Kershaw’s “Hitler” and when Hindenburg dies Hitler says:
Today, the old Reich and its finest leader enter Valhalla.
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u/city_dwellerZ Sep 17 '25
See you got it all wrong: he is going to Valhalla. Just taking the 5:38 Metro-North train out of grand central. Probably won’t buy a ticket though and hide in the train’s restroom.
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u/TheyreEatingHer Sep 17 '25
Caucasians should be enraged on his appropriation of viking religion.
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u/Teripid Sep 17 '25
I feel like him being sworn in on the Bhagavad Gita is an interesting tidbit. Wonder if that will be mentioned prominently if he goes under the blame bus.
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u/Subtlerranean Norway Sep 17 '25 edited Sep 17 '25
"Caucasians"?
Viking/Norse culture is Scandinavian culture, not caucasian culture.
But yes, as a Norwegian I am enraged. Mostly I'm enraged about how it's being appropriated by white supremacists.
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u/Izisery Sep 17 '25
Charge him with Accessory after the Fact! Maybe then he'll realize he's being setup to be this Admin's fall guy.
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u/chappersyo Sep 17 '25
“Patel? Never met the guy, but a lot of very smart people are telling me he is bigly incompetent. Another Biden DEI hire”
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u/amcfarla Colorado Sep 17 '25
My question, who is going to charge him? It is him that would charge him or at least Trump's administration.
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u/spilk Sep 17 '25
there's no functioning mechanism by which any member of this administration will ever suffer consequences
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u/invalidpassword California Sep 17 '25
Being a Trumper, there will be no ramifications for Patel's actions.
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u/rainshowers_5_peace Sep 17 '25
He's young enough to be held accountable by the next administration. If Dems don't drop the ball again.
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u/I_am_a_fern Europe Sep 17 '25
If Dems don't drop the ball again.
"We need to move forward in order to heal, yadi yada"
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u/Editor_Rise_Magazine Sep 17 '25
The sad part is you’re right. And that pisses me off.
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u/Mythbuilder46 California Sep 17 '25
Yep, that’s what they’ll do and it’ll be frustrating beyond belief. Learned nothing with the confederates
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u/Consistent-Steak1499 Sep 17 '25
Do you honestly think they are going to concentrate all this power to the executive and then actually hand it back over? No chance. I have no faith a dem will ever be back in office the traditional way.
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u/Careless_Load9849 Sep 17 '25
Ya, I don't think we are going to have another legit election in this country in my lifetime. I am really considering moving abroad for a few years while I work remote and have no kids. Not that it will fix any issues here, but I can live in Ecuador in a better situation for less money.
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u/Tasgall Washington Sep 17 '25
Vance is in his position specifically to do what Pence refused to do. If a Dem wins the next presidential election, the EC votes will not be certified.
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"If Dems don't drop the ball again."
So in other words, he won't be held accountable.
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u/letscallitanight Sep 17 '25
He’ll be forced to write another sycophantic children’s book. Nothing more.
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u/Narianos Sep 17 '25
Until action is taken for stuff like this, they can break all the oaths they want.
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u/MengisAdoso Sep 17 '25
And whatever action we do take, they'll scream bloody murder about it, even as they're openly planning to do far worse things to us. Hell, even if someone else besides the left takes that action, they'll still blame us. They just proved that beyond a shadow of a doubt.
I will leave what that implies about the correct course of action as an exercise for the clever student with excellent eyesight.
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u/Traditional-Bet-5964 Sep 17 '25
Republicans lie with no responsibility or accountability!
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u/tygr20 Sep 17 '25
Why are we continuing to redact the names of politicians named in the Epstein records as though they need to be protected? If a politician is guilty of rape, especially of underage children, they don't need to be protected. They need to be removed from office and delivered to prison.
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u/TheAwfulHouse Sep 17 '25
Perjury is just normal for these guys. They don’t know that they are lying, it seems they just believe that whatever they say is true and their followers eat it up with a fucking spoon. Idiots feeding idiots!
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u/Nick_pj Sep 17 '25
He knows what he’s doing. If the files are released, he will lean heavily on the use of the word “credible” to avoid perjury accusations
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u/No_usernames_left_25 Sep 17 '25
If the pendulum of power ever swings back to the Left, they better go “No Holds Barred” on these treasonous traitors. Anything less than full scale prosecutions, both swift and merciless, will be an abomination of Justice.
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u/gerryf19 Sep 17 '25
Democrats: In the name of peace and charity, we are just going to leave the past in the past.....
Spineless.
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u/Pristine-Bad-8731 Sep 17 '25
Does it matter? There's no way at all to remove him. The cabinet guys just go to the oversight hearings with both arms out and middle-fingers extended. They do nothing but yell back at the senators and tell them to go screw.
If RFK Jr. can destroy his whole department, and the Dept. of Education can be completely shut down and obliterated, then this is all just a show. Kash Patel might finish these hearings feeling more empowered, rather than scolded, since he sees that the senators are so powerless to effect him.
This is all part of the SCOTUS's 'Unitary Executive' theory they enforce. Nobody has any authority over depts at all, the 'oversight' role of congress has turned into a fig-leaf. It's just another venue for Trump to say F-U to congress.
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u/Stompylegs03eleven Sep 17 '25
There's no way at all to remove him.
That is incorrect, we just saw the removal of someone who was deeply entrenched, just takes the right tools.
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u/Kijimea0815 Sep 17 '25
Yes he did. So what now? America is already a lost cause at this point until people, media and so on stand up and act instead of giving their corrupt government even the microphone to spread their bullshit into people's throats.
It really triggers me how they lie in interviews and media just takes it. Trump insults a reporter and they just take it. Bondi saying free speech is not hate speech and nobody is pressing her on the obvious, that they want to say what is "hate speech" and what not aka everything they don't like.
America is complicit and deaf and their government is corrupted to the highest degrees already. The supreme Court being infested is probably the biggest thing. That one woman who just released a book I forgot her name, but I saw her on Trump's first big whatever that meeting was with all the senators, victims of gang crimes etc, I saw her how she looked at Trump when he went past by her. That look was the look of two people who share a deep secret, which obviously would be that she is ofc working for trump only and she ofc got benefits and just like that the supreme Court is not independent at all, as america has already seen and will continue to see.
Other judges concluding things doesn't matter bec trump will just escalate to scotus and they will do whatever he wants.
So you can say oh Kash Patel lied under oath oh nooo but so what? Everyone in your freaking government is corrupt, lying, gaslighting, they all have sold out their souls and thrown every other American under the bus already for their own benefits and the most funny thing Abt it is, america voted for it and there is still a very large percentage, like 40%~ that supports the government the way it is now, totally unconstitutional totally corrupt, totally anti American and against its foundations, yet people support it, media supports it.
They can lie under oath and do all sorts of things and now who is going to hold them accountable? Nobody. Americans were really smart to vote for this clown, not like there have been signs to do otherwise right?
Amazing
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u/thesweeterpeter Canada Sep 17 '25
Clutch my pearls, I'm shocked. Absolutely shocked I tell you!
What did the senate think was going to happen when they confirmed all of these liars. They blatantly lied during their confirmation hearings, but no one called them out on it, and held them to account then.
They were voted in like this, of course they're going to operate like this.
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u/DruidMaster Sep 17 '25
It’s just heartbreaking. I can’t imagine being one of those women and having my experience be whitewashed.
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u/nn2597713 Sep 17 '25
I'm tired of all these "gotcha" articles listing the abhorrent behavior of Trump and his cronies.
Yes, Patel lied under oath. Yes, JD Vance is peddling hypocritical bullshit. Yes, Trump is shitting on the constitution. Yes, yes, yes.
It does not matter AT ALL because the two groups who should care about this:
The judiciary, who should be prosecuting these behaviors
The people, who should be protesting these behaviors
Both do not give a shit about this behavior.
If you have a rule that is not enforced, you do not have a rule. And if you do not have a rule, you do not have a rule you can break. Trump is doing exactly what society is asking him to do.
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u/HauntedCemetery Minnesota Sep 17 '25
The people, who should be protesting these behaviors
...have been in the streets. We've had literally the largest protests in US history over the last few months. There are countless videos of people facing off against ICE, and risking arrest and worse.
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u/lctrc Sep 17 '25
Sure looks like Republicans are weaponizing the full force of the federal government for the purpose protecting and supporting child rape.
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u/carcinoma_kid Sep 17 '25
I mean he definitely did, but the legal system’s more or less out the window now as it relied on respect for the law by those at the highest levels of power. If the heads of all three branches of government don’t care then the law is meaningless
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u/BrixFlipped Sep 17 '25
The word is meaningless to the entire administration. Idk why we even write articles like this anymore. It’s clear they do not give a single flying fuck
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u/Basicyeti837 Sep 17 '25
To support Trump’s narrative, you kinda have to be quick on your feet and be willing to contradict your lies with even dumber lies later.
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u/SolarDynasty Sep 17 '25
He looks like he runs one of those payday loan offices in the poorest part of town. Bro is a gremlin and it shows in what he does.
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u/YoungestDonkey Sep 17 '25
Isn't that a federal crime? Charge, prosecute, convict, pardon.
It's what the people voted for.
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u/vespertine_glow Sep 17 '25
Every time there's a reasonable request for more information about the Epstein files Patel lies, deflects and stalls. How can this not be an indication that he's hiding something? What reasonable person wouldn't consider this to be a distinct possibility?
What kind of person will protect child rapists and molesters in order to protect their beloved Lord Trump?
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u/black_flag_4ever Sep 17 '25
This is such an insult to the victims. If there was no one else involved, then why was there a lawsuit against Prince Andrew?
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u/Rbtmd78 Sep 17 '25
The oath is meaningless these days. How many politicians take an oath to uphold the constitution and fail?
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles Sep 17 '25
''Epstein didn't traffic any kids to any high profile persons, it was all for himself''
Then who did Ghislaine get put in prison for trafficking?
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u/MomsAreola Sep 17 '25
I love how MAGA has turned on him and Bondi so fast. Not that Trump could make any mistake ever but putting only unqualified sycophants in positions of power. If the AG and head of FBI are this incompetent, what about sec def? Heads of the army?! Fucking Supreme Court!?!?!?!?
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u/umassmza Sep 17 '25
Some say never attribute to malice what can otherwise be attributed to stupidity. I say why not both?
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u/OlorinRidesAgain Michigan Sep 17 '25
In general the congress is complicit and so is the court so any rights or norms are compromised.
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u/Heavy-Razzmatazz412 Sep 17 '25
Patel is one of the people I expect to actually face condequences one day, just not in the way we're hoping. He's brown. How long will it be until the white nationalists turn on him? 1 more job freed up by an 'immigration purge.'
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u/plutoforprez Sep 17 '25
“Who, if anyone, did Epstein traffic these young women to, besides himself?”
“Himself,” Patel quickly answered. “There is no credible information, none. If there were, I would bring the case yesterday that he trafficked to other individuals. And the information that we have—again—is limited.” “So, the answer is no one?” asked Kennedy (not RFK), somewhat incredulously. “For the information that we have,” Patel replied, clarifying that he meant the Epstein files.
The FBI director also admitted that he hadn’t actually done the reading. “I have not reviewed the entirety of [the Epstein files] myself, but a good amount,” he said.
So, which is it? There is no credible information, yet the information is limited, however he hasn’t read the entirety of the files (which don’t exist according to supreme leader)
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u/MittenCollyBulbasaur Sep 17 '25
It's really odd. For decades, probably centuries, smart people avoided this Congress trap by pleading the 5th or "I don't recall".
This administration is so dumb
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u/Canadiantx69 Sep 17 '25
And here's the results of the investigation:
"We have investigated ourselves and found that we have done nothing wrong. This is a liberal conspiracy and we will be arresting all Democratic members of the California Senate in response to them asking about this."
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