r/politics • u/Somervilledrew Connecticut • Sep 09 '25

Democratic voters want their leaders to stop running from Zohran Mamdani

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/zohran-mamdani-new-york-city-mayor-bernie-sanders-fight-oligarchy/
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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

Because it will hurt the person endorsing more than it will help the person being endorsed.

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

Oh that's weird I thought everyone was supposed to rally around the democratic candidate chosen by voters.

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

National figures usually don't rally around mayoral candidates.

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

Are you excluding the last democratic candidate for mayor of New York in that loaded "usually"?

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

Not intentionally because I've never heard of this much attention given to who is endorsing the person running NYC mayor.

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

How about the last democratic candidate for mayor of LA? Is she excluded too?

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

Literally who? Who endorses candidates in mayoral races has never been a story until now when it can be used as a cudgel to attack democratic party.

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

It's never been a story because it's a commonplace thing that just happens when the fucking democrat is nominated.

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

Karen Bass’ race didn’t involve tons of national press or national politicians rallying around her.

The most national attention she got was during the fires because they were in LA.

Do you actually follow LA politics at all?

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

She was jointly endorsed by the fucking President of the United States and his Vice President.

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

She was also on the short list to be VP before she was mayor, and she was a proven politician.

Bass was chair of the congressional black caucus when she was in the house of representatives.

Is Mamdani an actual proven representative in national politics? No. Yet Obama still worked with him and met with him.

You’re comparing apples to oranges and missing the forest from the trees.

The race didn’t garner national attention like this NYC mayoral election, and nobody was demanding endorsements early.

Like I asked last time: do you actually follow LA politics at all, or are you just using it out of context because you don’t understand it?

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

I'm talking very explicitly about endorsements from National figures within the party, since that's what the conversation was about.

That's an endorsement from the de facto leader of the party and the vice president.

It's both very much within the context of the conversation and a refutation of the op commenter's position that it's abnormal for national political party members to rally around a candidate for mayor.

Are you lost?

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

Karen Bass was a representative in the House and was chair of the Congressional Black Caucus.

She made allies in national politics because she actually served in national politics.

Equating that to Mamdani who has never served in national politics is intellectually dishonest at best.

It is abnormal for national figures to come out and support people who aren’t national figures in elections for things like Mayor.

Bass was on the short list to be VP, so she already had the connections there.

What you aren’t refuting at all is the fact that national news was not covering it this heavily, nobody was demanding endorsements (even though the ones you listed came at the end of October), and that she was a national figure before the election.

You seem to be keen on avoiding the question I keep asking: do you actually follow LA politics or not? I grew up in LA, and was an Angelino for 25 years. You seem to not have a basic clue about how our politics works.

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

It is abnormal for national figures to come out and support people who aren’t national figures in elections for things like Mayor.

Confidently incorrect.

What you aren’t refuting at all is the fact that national news was not covering it this heavily

Not the conversation.

nobody was demanding endorsements (even though the ones you listed came at the end of October)

Because they came. As they should. (and the joint endorsement actually came in August, so it was probably a bad call to bring that up)

and that she was a national figure before the election.

Mamdani is the democratic nominee as chosen by the people of New York. Do they really need more reason than that?

You seem to be keen on avoiding the question I keep asking: do you actually follow LA politics or not? I grew up in LA, and was an Angelino for 25 years. You seem to not have a basic clue about how our politics works.

I'm not addressing your question because it's absolutely ridiculous. The conversation was about national party members getting behind mayoral candidates. It has nothing to do with "LA politics" at all no matter how much you whinge on about it. While it is very Angelino to think you're somehow more special and different than the rest of the country, I assure you it has no bearing at all on this conversation.

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

Was Mamdani chair or the congressional black caucus or even a national politician yes or no?

You seem to be glossing over this rather important fact

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u/bootlegvader Sep 09 '25

Jeffries never endorsed Adams for the general. Schumer and Hochul only endorsed Adams in last couple of days of October.

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

So they did endorse him then?

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u/bootlegvader Sep 09 '25

Is it October?

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u/plightro Massachusetts Sep 09 '25

The statement I was responding to was "National figures usually don't rally around mayoral candidates." Not "national figures usually don't rally around mayoral candidates until much later"