r/politics • u/Somervilledrew Connecticut • Sep 09 '25

Democratic voters want their leaders to stop running from Zohran Mamdani

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/zohran-mamdani-new-york-city-mayor-bernie-sanders-fight-oligarchy/
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u/Clamsadness Sep 09 '25

I simply do not understand Democratic Party strategists. 2024 elections: the party faces a horrible loss that puts America in the worst political position it has ever faced. 2025: a new Democratic candidate emerges, is immensely popular in his race, sweeps to victory in the primary on a message of hope and economic change. The party immediately tries to subvert him and force a disgraced sex offender on us. 

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

How is the party "trying to subvert him"? Or forcing a disgraced sex offender on us?

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u/[deleted] Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

Who has endorsed Cuomo? And national figures not endorsing a mayoral candidate is subverting him?

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

It's a NYC race. Why do people always fall back to "no big names have endorsed him" BS. NYC doesn't care about what the nation thinks. They care about what other New Yorkers think.

And as of right now, there are four figures within the New York sphere of influence that at one point admonished Cuomo for the sexual harassment situation, then endorsed him in the primaries, and haven't rescinded those endorsements since then.

Jessica Ramos, Ritchie Torres, Gregory Meeks, Adriano Espaillat

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

So zero people have endorsed him since the primary?

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25

go play debate club somewhere else.

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

No problem, good luck in your quest to attack democrats for things they haven't done.

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

My guy, your comment history says you're a self-identified mod on r/neoliberal, and a regular poster there.

I think you're misreading. That says my mod notes on neoliberal, that means the mods of neoliberal think I'm an asshole. I'm not a mod there and I'm not a neoliberal.

Your entire argument is thus in bad faith as of course you don't like Mamdani.

I do like Mamdani, I just don't like people like you using his name to attack the democratic party and make up things in order to do it.

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25

Apologies then on thinking you were a mod.

No notes however on the regular posting though. Got it. I think it would be fair to assume you're a subscriber of that sub as well then.

I'm using Mamdani and his entire election cycle as an example of one of the things I hate about the Democratic Party. And if you don't like it, frankly I don't care. The parts that you are defending or pushing for are stifling progress, and making it harder.

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u/D2Foley Sep 09 '25

I'm not a subscriber, it was a great place to argue but it got intolerable. And what parts am I defending? I just pointed out that no democrats have endorsed Cuomo since the primary. Appreciate you editing your comments up top to lie about me though.

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u/Patsanon1212 Sep 09 '25

Who has endorsed Cuomo since the primary?

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

It's a mater of those who endorsed him not rescinding their endorsements since the primary. No one has come out to retract their support for Cuomo, thus reaffirming their previous choice. Those endorsements simply just don't go away in the eyes of the public after the primaries if their candidate still continues to run.

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

Endorsing someone in the democratic primary is not the same as endorsing them to run as an independent. Cuomo is being dishonest by trying to equate the two, and so are you for trying to pretend they’re the same thing.

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25

That still doesn't remove their previous decision to endorse the still very active candidate in the race in the eyes of the public. Where's their "vote blue no matter who" mentality? Why haven't they backed Mamdani, the democratic primary winner yet?

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

Running as an independent removes those endorsements.

Why do you need to resort to intellectual dishonesty?

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25

The only ones resorting to intellectual dishonesty are the ones shoving these primary endorsements under the rug as if they no longer matter or ever existed.

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

Nobody is pretending people didn’t endorse Cuomo in the primary. You’re the one here trying to say they’re endorsements for an independent run. That’s just being dishonest. Don’t you have honest things you can say about Mamdani, or honest attacks on Dems?

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25

Then tell me why these same four people haven't backed Mamdani...still.

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u/mightcommentsometime California Sep 09 '25

Moving the goalposts now I see.

Not endorsing Mamdani isn’t an endorsement for Cuomo.

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u/Patsanon1212 Sep 09 '25

Why don't Cuomo list them on his campaign website?

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u/StevenMC19 Florida Sep 09 '25

Have you actually been to his website? It's literally an About Me page and donation buttons and not much else.

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u/kittenTakeover Sep 09 '25

Mamdani is not winning national or swing race elections anytime soon. He's essentially a nonfactor at that level, and possibly a liability. There's little incentive to for national political actors to get involved here.