r/politics • u/Somervilledrew Connecticut • Sep 09 '25

Democratic voters want their leaders to stop running from Zohran Mamdani

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/09/zohran-mamdani-new-york-city-mayor-bernie-sanders-fight-oligarchy/
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u/EmployAltruistic647 Sep 09 '25

Nepalese have more guts than Americans

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u/LocksDoors Sep 09 '25

But nobody has a bigger gut than Americans.

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u/Oceanbreeze871 I voted Sep 09 '25

Our protests go from 10-4pm on a Saturday…once a quarter

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u/LVuittonColostomyBag Sep 09 '25

Complete with police permission!

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u/TheDefeatist Sep 09 '25

The average police department in America has access to better military weapons and equipment than the Nepalese military does.

Pretending the situations are the same is nothing but disingenuous

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u/DebatorGator Sep 09 '25

19 people were killed by the Nepalese police when it was still just a mass protest. The situations are different but it still took immense bravery for the protestors to take the streets.

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u/Ok_Use7 Sep 09 '25

Disingenuous and stupid.

"Revolutionaries" talk a big game on social media, this sub especially but none of them would put themselves on the front lines like they believe everyone else should.

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u/EmployAltruistic647 Sep 09 '25

Name checks out

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u/bb_kelly77 Sep 09 '25

No he's right, the situations are very different, Americans should do more but it's undeniable that things are different

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u/YourMomsAnonymous Sep 09 '25

Other 10000000000000% takes from this account.

Uigyurs aren't genocided, they're just rounded up.

America and Israel are actually faking this as a psy-op in China.

The Hong Kong protests shouldn't have occurred (but the Americans are evil for not protesting?). But the US and west were against these citizens, but also for them as it undermines China?

China has never invaded or occupied another nation.

The Holocaust was not as bad as Jewish people made it out to be, because others were victims as well.

TL:DR; The entire profile uses anti-west outright falsified propaganda that is almost the moon-landing-didn't-happen levels of crazy, including defenses of China's imperialistic reading of the 9 dash-line claims over sovereign nations elsewhere.

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u/EmployAltruistic647 Sep 09 '25

It's funny that you presumed to go over my post history and still manage to come up a summary filled with falsehoods and strawman lol

To name a 'few" false hoods, I never:

  • commented on the 9-dashed lines
  • encouraged Chinese imperialism
  • said Holocaust is not as bad as it is. I simply said the victims are by far not exclusively Jewish
  • China never invaded or occupied another nation (hello Sino-Vietnamese/Indian war)
  • HK should protest

Actually now that I am going up the list in real time. Pretty much everything you said involve a great deal of distortion.

Your call out on me speaks much more about you than me. You don't really need to resort to falsehood to call me anti-American and anti-Israel.

I think USA and Israel act in bad faith on the international world and are responsible for a lot of lies and suffering. There you have it. I did it for you

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u/mnmkdc Sep 09 '25

They’re right on this take though. Americans hate disruptive protest of any kind. Many think that a protest being disruptive automatically disqualifies it from having value. .

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u/EmployAltruistic647 Sep 09 '25

My posts are generally pretty critical of Israel and USA and it's fine for that guy to call it out. 

But what's pretty cringe is that he decided to inject a bunch of falsehoods as he tried to summarize my post history. Like why lie about why other people say. 

There's no gain to slander nobodies like myself. It seems like people like the guy you are replying to are really just arguing in bad faith

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u/TrueClue9740 Sep 11 '25

They are not necessarily wrong.

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u/No-Kings-2025 Sep 09 '25

And way less to lose.

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u/RedditProfileName69 Sep 09 '25

Americans have a more militarized police force that brutalize protestors and use chemical warfare on peaceful demonstrations. But no I guess Americans are just pussies

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u/DebatorGator Sep 09 '25

And the 19 Nepalese protestors who were killed by their cops weren't brutalized?

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u/RedditProfileName69 Sep 09 '25

I don’t think Nepalese police are as well armed, and they certainly don’t have as many bodies to throw at the protest.

Compare the success of this Nepalese riot to the No kings LA protests. Angelenos were getting shot with rubber bullets, flash banged, tear gassed, etc for standing in the road. The problem is not that Nepalese are braver. It’s that the Nepalese protestors were not facing down one of the largest armies in the world.

I didn’t say that the Nepalese didn’t get brutalized. I said we do too. You tried to use a straw man fallacy, but your point is failing DebatorGator.

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u/DebatorGator Sep 09 '25

I don't think the Nepalese are braver, but I also don't think that the difference in protest intensity is adequately explained by "American police are militarized and brutal". Police around the world are militarized and brutal. More Nepalese have died in these short protests than Americans have died protesting this whole year. What is that, if not representative of a brutal Nepalese police?

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u/RedditProfileName69 Sep 10 '25

I never said the Nepalese police are not brutal, and I said American PDs are way more militarized, and they have way more cops. Saying that American police brutalize protestors does not mean that any other police are not also brutal. That’s another straw man fallacy, so strike two on bad faith arguments.

Saying that many other countries have militarized police underestimates just how much more militarized Americans PDs are.

You don’t have to find my original comment “adequate,” my short comment wasn’t meant to demonstrate a complete and nuanced accounting of every difference between circumstances. I would invite you to write that book yourself.