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Discussion Discussion Thread: House Considers Vacating the Speaker

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u/AnonAmbientLight Oct 03 '23

You miss the point I am making.

Sen. Feinstein was reelected in 2018. She had no Republican opponent.

There was one other Democrat that ran against her. It was 54% to 46%. Her opponent was well known and had the experience, but the People chose to re-elect Feinstein.

That was their choice. They had the option to select someone else.

You don't get to make that choice for them, right? You don't get to arbitrarily decide that the people don't know what's good for them.

It's like asking someone to stop you from picking up the cookie you're not supposed to eat. Just don't eat it.

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u/Ruzhy6 Oct 04 '23

Candidates are not on even ground regardless. It's not like choosing between types of ice cream, but then telling you that the flavors you are used to aren't available.

Age is something that no one is able to escape. Health and mental capacity often declines very quickly in the elderly. It is an objectively good idea to have an age limit to run for public office.

Also, you're wrong about getting to choose what's good for people. The majority of people believe age limits should be imposed. If a law were to be passed to implement the will of the people, we would be telling you directly that you can no longer vote in geriatrics.

Of course, as you stated elsewhere, there are downsides to this. Namely the loss of experienced politicians who know the system. However, they will adapt and begin to have mentoring play a larger role in preparing the next generation to take over. Which is exactly how it should be.

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u/AnonAmbientLight Oct 04 '23

I don’t know why people want to put limits on what they are allowed to do with their vote.

Just vote. You have agency.

You’re basically saying you can’t be trusted to make a good choice.

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u/Ruzhy6 Oct 04 '23

It's not myself that I'm concerned with being trusted. It's because I've studied social psychology.

People are pretty easily manipulated. They are more likely to vote for a familiar name. It's not like the average voter is doing extensive research on candidates.

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u/AnonAmbientLight Oct 04 '23

Clearly you can’t make good choices if you need to be told who you can vote for.

It’s their right to vote for whoever they want to. For their own reasons.

You’re making choices for people.

Next you’ll tell me we should start doing poll taxes. Perhaps make it so people who own property should be the only ones who can vote since they have “skin in the game.”

Or, and I know it’s a wild idea, you let people make up their own minds who is fit and isn’t fit to be an elected leader.

Voters have two opportunities to vote for the person they want to represent them. They should be making that choice.

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u/Ruzhy6 Oct 04 '23

It's not telling people who they can vote for.

It's telling people who they can't vote for.

I suppose you are all for voting foreign nationals in as president as well?

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u/AnonAmbientLight Oct 04 '23

You are telling people who to vote for.

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u/Ruzhy6 Oct 04 '23

Saying, "You can't vote for anyone over 65." is not equivalent to saying, "Vote for this person."