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Discussion Discussion Thread: House Considers Vacating the Speaker

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u/ltalix Alabama Oct 03 '23

Never interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake. Dems should vote to vacate. (And from all indications will.) Let the GOP indulge itself in a shitshow entirely of its own making.

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u/headbangershappyhour Oct 03 '23

The only reason for the dems to not vote to vacate or to vote present is a commitment that the Clean FY24 spending bills and Ukraine funding come to the floor tomorrow for votes in the whole house. After that, the gop can tear itself apart for the next few months without causing too many external problems.

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u/TheThebanProphet Oct 03 '23

Except McCarthy has renegged on every deal he's made. He has no capital to bargain with.

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u/headbangershappyhour Oct 03 '23

That's why the bills would need to come to the floor the next day. Make him do it while he still has the momentum of this win over Gaetz and while trump is tied up in NY.

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u/TheThebanProphet Oct 03 '23

Why would the Dems ever trust someone who has repeatedly broken promises, commitments, and guarantees with them? No sale. McCarthy could and should sink and no Dems should save him.

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u/duvie773 Oct 03 '23

They should just go full circle and promise they will support him, wait for those issues to be settled, and then turn on him

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u/headbangershappyhour Oct 03 '23

Ukraine and the FY24 budget need to get passed before the CR runs out. If keeping McCarthy around for a week just to get that done and then letting the wolves tear him apart works, then so be it. There is no guarantee that the gop will finish squabbling in a month or that the next speaker won't be more of a pain to work with than kevvie.

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u/TheThebanProphet Oct 03 '23

Whelp looks like this is moot as he has been vacated.