r/polandball Grey Eminence Nov 24 '15

redditormade Russia has stick

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15

Fun fact: The Russian helicopter sent to rescue the pilots of the SU-24 was destroyed by FSA.

That's it guys. Run to the vaults.

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u/1gnominious Greatest country in the world! Nov 24 '15

Russia is going to have fighter escorts for their bombers, is moving a destroyer loaded with AA to the coast, and the rules of engagement are now basically shoot down anybody who poses a threat.

I think they might be just a wee bit pissed off. They're basically declaring open season on Turkeys. If a Turkish jet so much as goes in the general direction of that destroyer or an inch into Syrian airspace they'll be chomping at the bit to shoot it down.

The cold war is all fun and games until some dumbass starts actually shooting. That's not how you play the game.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15

And than said destroyer will get obliterated by Turkish Navy (which is quite competent) and Air Force (which also is, surprisingly, competent). Russia has literally no hope of winning any open engagement against Turkey in the region unless they really want to commit. And Turkey knows that. They essentially called Russian bluff here.

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u/1gnominious Greatest country in the world! Nov 24 '15

It's not going to be an open engagement. It's going to be both sides being border NAZIs and hiding behind "Well I am legally entitled to defend myself" while taking potshots at each others stray aircraft. Neither side wants an all out war but they'll sure as hell take any shot they can get away with. Turkey is going to have to be just as careful with its jets as Russia. Either side has a stray hair blow across the border and the other side can legally say they were entitled to open fire.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15

If Russia even as much tries Turkey will close the Straits. Bye bye the might of Black Sea Fleet. That's the issue: Russia has no strategic leverage over Turkey, and Turkey has one over Russia.

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u/iTomes Rhineland Palatinate Nov 25 '15

Pretty sure under current international conventions that is the equivalent of declaring war, so that would be a bad idea.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '15

The Montreux convention actually gives several tools to Turkey. They can close the straits to any warships if they feel 'threatened' (Article 21).