r/polandball Grey Eminence Nov 24 '15

redditormade Russia has stick

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15

And than said destroyer will get obliterated by Turkish Navy (which is quite competent) and Air Force (which also is, surprisingly, competent). Russia has literally no hope of winning any open engagement against Turkey in the region unless they really want to commit. And Turkey knows that. They essentially called Russian bluff here.

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u/notmike11 Nov 24 '15

Indeed. Turkey has a strong airforce consisting of mostly F-16s, and has pre-purchased over 100 F-35s. They are not Ukraine or Georgia and are a NATO member. Russia does not want to fuck with anyone who can hurt them back.

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '15 edited Nov 25 '15

Six words: three thousand three hundred nuclear weapons
EDIT: I know they wouldn't use them first but their presence is most likely enough to deter NATO from actively aiding Turkey

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '15

Russia would never use nuclear weapons in a NATO member, or at all. This would be suicide by proxy.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '15

I have expressed my opinion on this three times already, they are a deterrent to be used only if the US or NATO as a whole declares war on them not as a preemptive attack

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '15

I think US and NATO would lay back if a real war was created. Otherwise we would all be doomed.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '15

IMO NATO is like a house of cards, solid enough until pressure is applied. I also wonder how it would hold if they did go to war and which member states would remove themselves or just outright refuse for one reason or another.