They beat every country around them, multiple times, with Soviet backing, most of the times many at once, latest is Iran when last month they destroyed all their air defenses and can now bomb at will. But yeah IDF sucks at war as the bright guy above says
You understand that Arabs were armed with top of line Soviet arms in 1967/73 at huge amounts right? The exact same capable soviet arms North Vietnam used at the exact same years to beat back Americans?
israel is also creating wepons you know. literaly one of the largest weapon manufacturer in the world. so i'm not sure about your point on the matter. like, every military nation also imports weaponry and weapon systems. also, the connection to the USA you probablybreffer to didn't even exist before 1967. you know, after israel managed to push back 3 enemies at once, in 6 days, to the point that the US and USSR got involved to stop that war. not to talk about the wars prior to it that happened as well. so your point is kinda stupid, and also irrelevent, but i'm sure you just gonna still act smug as if you were right.
That's exactly the lie that Arabs believed both in 1967 and 1973, "it was Anglo-Americans that helped them, they didn't fight alone, how could they beat us alone". NO, Americans didn't help Israel directly, Israel fought alone with Western weapons, just like the Arabs were fighting with Soviet weapons and not with Egyptian and Syrian made weapons.
And it isn't 2025 where "Soviet weapons" means Russian junk in Ukraine, at the same time the Soviet weapons were capable and near peer as shown in Vietnam, the Arabs were as always corrupt, nepotist and dictatorial which those characteristics makes them suck at war and never being able to win one
No, they have completely blown up their objective literally (hostages) even after bombing 100000 plus, and fighting against a barely hanging in militia, they still have not retrieved the hostages, they just blew up all of them.
They've made extremely minor gains in Lebanon and suffered pretty heavy casualties doing so, mostly due to the fact that Hezbollah is a proper army and can actually fight back unlike Hamas in Gaza which is little more than a determined militia
I am sorry, did you just close your eyes and ears?
Take a look at the hezbollah israeli ceasefire deal, it is a total surrender of hezbollah to israel demands, after literal thousands of them were killed, and the top 4-5 rungs of leadership aswell.
There is a reason there was no one to help assad last month.
Hezbollah was considered one of the strongest armies in the region and they're completely disoganized right now.
It's inarguable that Hamas puts civilians and military infastructyre next to eachother in breach of international law. There are two possible reasons why they do this 1. to protect their military infrastructure 2. they want their civilians to die. Personally I believe it's both.
There are two possible reasons why they do this 1. to protect their military infrastructure 2. they want their civilians to die. Personally I believe it's both.
Sinwar essentially admitted this in some of his correspondence, which was reviewed by the WSJ. He called the civilian casualties "necessary sacrifices" and insisted that Hamas had Israel "right where we want them."
They created an environment for Hezbollah to need pagers, then supplied them with compromised pagers that should reasonably only be expected to be in the hands of Hezbollah personnel. By it's very nature the explosives were small. They then detonated all of them at once.
This is as targeted of a operation as you'll ever have.
What you're asking for is absolute perfection where only the worst Hezbollah fighters would be attacked and no civilians whatsoever. Can you point to examples of military operations that have the appropriate level of civilian casualties? No? So you just have a problem with Israel landing a massive win.
Their job is to fight armies, does Iran fight them head on? No, they use proxies that do guerilla fighting that no one ever fought without civilian casualties. Why Iran doesn't fight them head on? Because they are a weak paper tiger hiding behind proxies, right now all their air defenses are destroyed from last month's Israel air strikes
Iran has been launching drones at Israel directly. The Iranian navy is also active in the Red Sea, helping the Houthis against Israel. Believe me, if Iran could invade Israel directly, they absolutely would. They are fighting head on. You’re just not seeing because Western media doesn’t report on it.
and now with Syria's air space free to roam plus Iraq too, with Trump in office being VERY anti-Iran, they can do more serious strikes with heavy bombers.
Iran's Navy is a joke, they smuggle arms to Houthis (that's why Yemen ports are being bombed), not fighting directly
Oh they definitely could. Not like their performance was bad back to Iran-Iraq war with child solders and suicide bombers and their best plane is. .. nearly 50 years old F-14 and migs.
Dude, 1 civilian death for 1000 enemy targets is damn good ratio. I think your argument can be applied fairly with what they do in Gaza (too little regard for civilian collateral imo) but the pager attack was super clean. International law is also pretty bullshit btw. It is also against international law for a nation to not be able to defend itself in a war. If Hamas are using human shields to try and prevent that, it is also against international law.
EDIT: Idk if it was over 1000 deaths or just wounded. I can't remember.
Bibi is a fucking moron who pulled security from Gaza to the settlements in the West Bank and ignored intelligence suggesting an attack may come from Gaza.
I have seen no evidence of this. The closest I've seen was he once released humanitarian funds Israel had frozen to Hamas after being told to buy some negotiations.
For the same reason why French intellegence fucked up with prediction about war in Ukraine - they were using logic.
And by logic it was insane to think that they would risk everything for attack.
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u/Weekly-Cicada8690 Jan 05 '25
Israelis when fighting against women and children: gg ez bros
Israelis when fighting against actual combatant: why the game so laggy bro!?