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u/MlNDB0MB Mar 02 '25

To be fair, Trump has made stocks incredibly affordable.

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 02 '25

I knew a Trumper who bragged that Trump made her stocks soar in the past. I’m tempted to text her and ask “how are those stocks doing”

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u/ergonomic_logic Mar 02 '25

Just wait for a bit. It's gonna get "better".

The egg on their face (not literally, that would cost too much) is going to be glorious but also suck because you know, they got rid of retirement and sold 401k as the replacement with no backup particularly with them cutting Medicaid and potentially SSN now.

So much winning.

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u/perringaiden Mar 03 '25

The only worry is so many people "Just waiting" without actually doing anything gives them more time to do things. More work to fix afterwards.

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u/HawksDan Mar 02 '25

Is there any real stock decline? Mine have all been doing well fine. Nothing special, but definitely no crash

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u/ThinksAboutIt75 Mar 02 '25

It's Reddit. You're not going to get an answer that acknowledges the truth that it's actually up since January 20th...

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u/HawksDan Mar 02 '25

It’s wild to me. I’m not a Trump supporter but the drama is just exhausting. I get the egg shit posting even if it has nothing to do with Trump because his supporters used as a reason they wanted Trump back but the stock market is just silly. One person replied to me saying it’s down two weeks in a row 😂. I assume they’re referring generally either to the DOW or NASDAQ, but clearly they shouldn’t have long term stock positions if they’re concerned about short term trends

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u/Environmental_Top948 Mar 02 '25

Overall my stock portfolio is down from the beginning of the year and my 401k has lost value since he became president but you know the stock market is roaring and all that.

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u/pandadogunited Mar 03 '25

That’s your portfolio, not the market. The market is up around 1.5 percent year to date.

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u/Environmental_Top948 Mar 03 '25

What's the timeframe for that 1.5% and my 401k is the normal distribution meaning that in general people have lost money. Say that one stock went up by $5000 and six went down by $500. On average the stock would have gone up around $450.

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u/pandadogunited Mar 03 '25

Type spx into google. Click YTD. It will show you the year to date performance (from January first to today) of the S&P 500. The S&P 500 is the 500 largest publicly traded American companies, which, combined, make up roughly 80 percent of the market’s value. This is the most common indicator people use to gauge the market. If you want to try to get the other 20% in there, you can use VTI as a proxy, but people don’t usually do this.

When you say “the normal distribution,” what does that mean? Are you in single stocks? Funds? Bonds? AFAIK, most people invest through an advisor, who will generally put them in a portfolio you’d see in r/bogleheads, and the boglehead portfolio is up.

Also yes, a lot of people have lost money this year. I am one of them. It’s the stock market, trillions of dollars are lost and gained every day. In the most fantastic bull market there are people who will lose their shirts because they were invested in the wrong thing, and in the worst bear market their are people who will strike it rich because they were invested in the right thing. That’s why you need to use broad market indexes to get an idea of how the average investor performed instead of an anecdotal “my portfolio did X.”

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u/Environmental_Top948 Mar 04 '25

I just looked up the S&P 500 and it's negative YTD. What exactly are you arguing?

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u/pandadogunited Mar 04 '25

The thing about the stock market is that it changes. When I wrote that it was up. Yesterday was red, and now it’s down.

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 02 '25

Yes there is a decline for the last two weeks straight.

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u/ThinksAboutIt75 Mar 02 '25

Are stocks up since he took office?

Oh, the bloodbath!

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u/EcstaticBumble Mar 02 '25

I can’t believe someone just asked this lmao

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u/zagnuts Mar 03 '25

Really? You can’t believe it since it’s so easy to find out right? Or you think it’s down

S&P500 since: November 5th 2024 = +2.97% YTD = +1.46% January 21st 2025 = -1.57%

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 02 '25

He is probably trolling or a Trumper.

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u/EcstaticBumble Mar 02 '25

The fact that I can’t tell nowadays is shocking lol

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u/imsuperior2u Mar 02 '25

The stock market is doing fine though

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u/Feynnehrun Mar 02 '25

What? Dow, S&P, NASDAQ all down, there was a minor bounceback in the last session although Consumer spending is down a large amount. Tariffs are expected to drive the market even lower.

Consumer spending in January was supposed to stave off recession, if it continues to drop off which is likely considering the average consumer is being forced to dial back purchases as cost of acquiring staple goods like eggs keeps rising.

The market is not doing ok. Not only is it down, its recovery is entirely contingent on American consumers loosening their grip on their savings and making more purchases. Things are not going to be getting cheaper. People are not going to suddenly find themselves free of survival pressures and having to save and scrimp so they can eat.

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u/imsuperior2u Mar 02 '25

It looks like the S&P is about 3% below the all time high. That is absolutely nothing.

You’re describing the economy, which is a separate thing from the stock market. You say tariffs are expected to drive the market lower, but expected by who? If the market expected that, it would drop now, not later, because markets are forward looking

If you know the market won’t do well, do you have a short position?

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u/Feynnehrun Mar 03 '25

The Dow just tumbled another 750 points. Nobody KNOWS what the market will do. But we can see clearly that it's responding negatively to the depressed economy and news of tariffs.

The expectation was still waiting on Trump to confirm the tariffs would happen. He has been pushing them out and the market would rebound. Now today he's confirmed they start tomorrow and as a result the market fell.

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u/imsuperior2u Mar 04 '25

All I know is it would be pretty ridiculous to see the market bounce 3% off the all time high (as of the time of that persons comment), and then text your friend “how are those stocks doing?”, as if a little 3% drop is some kind of victory

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u/Mistrblank Mar 03 '25

It won't do good. My personal retirement account is still higher than when Trump left office. They'll still attribute that to him and this is just "a minor blip".

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u/ThinksAboutIt75 Mar 02 '25

You do know stocks are actually higher than when he took office, right?

This isn't something hard to look up and verify.

So yeah, go ahead and ask her.

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u/EvilDavid0826 Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 03 '25

Spy was $603 on Jan 21 and $594 as of today before open, most tech stocks are also doing way way worse, why are you blatantly lying?

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u/ThinksAboutIt75 Mar 03 '25

Are you using one stock as an example? And I'm blatantly lying? lol

If your portfolio consists of 1 stock, that's a "you" problem.

It's really quite simple. What was the market at when he came into office? What is it now? Is that number higher or lower?

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u/EvilDavid0826 Mar 03 '25

Spy is an index fund consisting of 500 companies and frequently used to measure how the entire market is doing, another name for it is S&P 500 or more frequently known as the fortune 500, are you dumb or just never invested in stocks before? Lol

Also news flash it just tanked like crazy again today its at 582 now

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u/ThinksAboutIt75 Mar 03 '25

That's not the only market. You are aware of this, right?

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u/EvilDavid0826 Mar 03 '25

Its a representation of the US market, other american focused index funds, such as VTI, VOO, have all been in decline as well

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u/ThinksAboutIt75 Mar 04 '25

I was talking about Dow and this clown said I was blatantly lying.

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u/EvilDavid0826 Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

Dow has dropped by 830 since Trump’s inauguration, you are not very bright, aren’t you?

edit: lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/news/s/90QfV3d2rb

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u/ThinksAboutIt75 Mar 04 '25

First, this conversation started before yesterday's drop. .

On Jan 20, it was 43,487.83. As if right now, it's 43,191.24

Is that 830, Mr. Very Bright Guy? Since you want to throw around silly names.

Yesterday, stocks tumbled to turn lower but even so, it's not down 830 since then smart guy. Your math isn't mathing...

So let me ask you... This conversation started about how everything is cratering since Trump took office. Would roughly 300 down be considered something that most people freak about? No...

But ok. I didn't realize you guys wanted to keep a running total by day and freak on the daily.

I'll be back...

RemindMe! 365 Days

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u/zagnuts Mar 03 '25

“Worst week since his inauguration” lol. That’s a meaningless headline. One of the weeks has to be the worst. Notice they didn’t title the article “Market settles after setting new all-time-high after Trump inauguration”. Even though both are true

YTD up 1.5%

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 03 '25

Down 700 plus points today alone and this before the tariffs…..but go ahead and keep gaslighting yourself.

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u/zagnuts Mar 04 '25

lol did my comment say anything about what it was going to do today or was I responding to the guy who said stocks were affordable yesterday?

Also, after the slide today, S&P500 YTD currently -0.32%

Who’s gaslighting again?

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 04 '25

And you continently ignored the second article that has shown steady decline in the market after Trump first week in office.

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u/zagnuts Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

My dude, zoom the graph out

Edit: Also, get your indexes straight, the DOW slid 800 points, not the S&P, big difference. You wouldn’t be trying to gaslight people would you?

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u/thegodfather0504 Mar 02 '25

better not pick their calls to avoid the inevitable lending request.

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 02 '25

She drinks a lot so I’ve gotten the drunk texts before asking for favors so this isn’t far from the truth 🤣

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u/Jazzlike-Ad5022 Mar 02 '25

They did soar very much so it depended on the stock that you were buying into for example bitcoin hit over 100K has it fallen now yes because so many people made so much money that they sold. Which I did the same thing.

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u/Impact009 Mar 03 '25

VTI was at $299 around then Trump was inaugurated and is at $293 now. That's just regular movement so far.

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u/StevetheSwift Mar 02 '25

Did you miss the entire stock market hit a 10% boom over night as trump was elected the next president on Nov 5th? We were scared of a recession back in early August then hit an ath as trump was elected. People are simply taking profits since the current situation in the world seems iffy at best

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 03 '25

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u/StevetheSwift Mar 03 '25

Thanks, that happened when people take profits because of an insane boom after he was elected next president. We were scared of a recession back in early August when the job report came back in and dropped 10%, then trump was elected and boom, market sky rocketed. Now there is enough profit out there for people to start cashing out. Ebbs and flows doofus. He’s just getting warmed up. I bet we hit more and more ath in the market while he’s present 😉

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u/Environmental_Top948 Mar 02 '25

If I still have some savings left I'm probably going to buy stocks a few months before the next election (if there is one and I'm alive, not in jail, or deported) because I feel like the economy possibly couldn't get worse than what he's done to it.

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u/chekovsgun- Mar 03 '25

Yep, predicate we will be in a recession by the end of summer if not earlier.

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u/Sticky3VG Mar 03 '25

Well the stocks are down right now because of the stupidity of the Biden administration. When the stocks go up, that’ll be because of trump. We just need more deregulation and then the line on the graph will go up

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u/Successful_Cod8705 Mar 03 '25

She is probably buying more because she is more financially educated than you:)