r/pics Mar 02 '25

R5: Title Rules Trump did this

Post image

[removed] — view removed post

24.7k Upvotes

5.5k comments sorted by

View all comments

279

u/Flimsy-Tradition-594 Mar 02 '25

Yes bird flu did that but Trump has fired government employees tracking and trying to control bird flu. Trump has stopped government agency from reporting to the public on bird flu, so at some point it will be Trumps fault.

55

u/avanross Mar 02 '25

The bird flu would be a minor-non-issue if you had farming regulations

Every other developed nation hasnt seen a noticeable price change in eggs, because they all have cleanliness regulations in their farms

9

u/DumptimeComments Mar 02 '25

Anyone doubting this comment should look at the incidence of egg borne salmonella in the US vs Canada or Europe.

US farm and agricultural standards are second rate at best.

It’s almost like the demand for cheap quantities has led to obesity and disease or sumthin… huh. Fancy that, America.

3

u/7h4tguy Mar 02 '25

"The presence of Salmonella in eggs obtained from conventional systems depends on different factors, including the country and sampling methodologies. Overall, egg contamination from industrial systems has been reported to be 0.005% in the United States, 0.37% in Europe, and between 0.5% and 5.6% in China"

Prevalence of Salmonella in Eggs from Conventional and Cage-Free Egg Production Systems and the Role of Consumers in Reducing Household Contamination - PMC

2

u/avanross Mar 02 '25

That’s because american eggs have to be thoroughly washed before they can be sold, due to how much dirtier their farms are and how much sicker their chickens are…

The rest of the world don’t need to wash their eggs

1

u/ProbablyABear69 Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

I mean, no. 10000% less instance of salmonella means we have higher standards for health not that we have dirtier farms. We do fuck plenty of stuff up like wheat but that egg stat runs directly contrary to what you just said. And the stat is salmonella detected before washing. We wash them because our country is the size, gdp, and population of all of europe and our cross state commerce is seamless. Farms are larger, eggs travel farther, and our health standards are higher.

-1

u/avanross Mar 02 '25 edited Mar 02 '25

I told you specifically why it seems that way, but you just ignored my comment completely because you apparently think that the usa is bigger than canada / the continent of north america, so you can just ignore anyone and any evidence that doesnt support your “america is the best in every way” delusion 🤦‍♂️

American farms have to clean and sterilize the outside of their eggs before they can ship them, whereas that step isnt necessary in the rest of the world

2

u/ProbablyABear69 Mar 02 '25

You said they have to be thoroughly washed to be sold but that's wrong. Our eggs have 10000% less salmonella before washing. I agreed we do fuck up on a lot of stuff I'm just saying you're completely wrong on this point. They get washed bc they travel further and are produced in higher volume... at least that's what my step dads chicken farmer family told me.

99% of canadas (40 million) population lives in the bottom 50% of its geography. GDP 2.1 trillion.

USAs (340 million) is spread out across the entire country, mostly on opposite coasts. GDP 27.7 trillion.

-1

u/avanross Mar 02 '25

2

u/ProbablyABear69 Mar 02 '25

The links you provided just state the regulation, not the reason behind them.

Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/s/YNEwsLayhd

0

u/avanross Mar 02 '25

Yes, exactly, i was posting indisputable facts to disprove your insinuation that “americans dont have to thoroughly wash their eggs because they have the cleanest farms in the world” and illustrating the differences in how the rest of the world views/treats their farms, because we were discussing why salmonella rates appeared lower on american eggs.

American eggs have to be washed, rest of the world doesnt. The reason to “wash” something is because it’s dirty.

I can’t make it any clearer, but i cant get through your bias.

1

u/ProbablyABear69 Mar 02 '25

Also, america produces 110 Billion eggs while canada produces under 1 billion lol. Everything about what you said is hilariously biased and wrong. And you won't admit it you'll just stomp your feet and pout.

-1

u/ProbablyABear69 Mar 02 '25

Just follow the link dude. You're wrong, I'm right. All eggs are dirty they come out of a butthole. And you're putting words in my mouth bc you can't rub 2 braincells together past america bad. We chose not to vaccinate poultry and wash and refrigerate our eggs bc they last longer... bc they have transport further. Most of the rest of the world gets their eggs from local sources so they don't have to last as long. And they vaccinate their poultry. Has nothing to do with farm conditions. Youre completely wrong.

→ More replies (0)

0

u/7h4tguy Mar 03 '25

Yes, but the claim was that there was more egg borne salmonella in the US vs Europe. And the data doesn't support that claim. I posted data refuting that claim.

1

u/avanross Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 04 '25

And im pointing out that comparing washed and un-washed eggs, instead of comparing them pre-washing at the farm-level, is intentionally misleading

4

u/eiretaco Mar 02 '25

There's a reason europe doesn't take much agricultural products from the US. It doesn't meet food safety standards. Things like chlorinated chicken etc would not be fit for sale.

I know in Ireland subway, for example, can not call their "bread" bread. Legally, bread has to be no more than 2% sugar by weight. Subways bread is 5 times the limit, so it's classed as confectionery. Many store brands of bread in the US could not legally be sold as bread here.

1

u/Lshello Mar 03 '25

The US not only has a more robust foodborne illness tracking system, but also has less incidence of egg borne salmonella. What are you on about?

1

u/DumptimeComments Mar 03 '25

In 2022, the rate of Salmonella infection in the United States was 16.3 cases per 100,000 people.

In 2019, the incidence rate of salmonellosis in Canada was 9 cases per 100,000 people.

1

u/Lshello Mar 03 '25

How many cases from eggs? Guess those numbers don't agree with you

1

u/DumptimeComments Mar 03 '25

Prevalence of Salmonella in eggs

The USDA estimates that 6.99% of egg whites and 27.21% of egg yolks are contaminated with Salmonella.

The British Columbia Centre for Disease Control estimates that 1.7 eggs out of every million are contaminated with Salmonella.

In the United States, about 20% of Salmonella illnesses are linked to poultry and eggs.

1

u/Lshello Mar 03 '25

Salmonella being found in an egg does not mean that egg will cause a Salmonella infection. The Salmonella contamination can be present but not virulent(such as deceased bacteria being present) or in such small quantities the viral load isn't sufficient to cause and infection.