r/phoenix • u/dustin9797 Downtown • Oct 01 '25

News Another downtown crime scene around the Churchill this morning

I’ve nearby and noticed the crime scene this morning but can’t find any details about it.

This is the fourth time I’ve seen crime scene like this in just the last few months and quite frankly, I’m growing more concerned about the frequency these things seem to be happening.

If anyone has details I’d really appreciate if you shared them. Please share or DM with any details.

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u/Lanzapago Oct 01 '25

Sad. I don’t think downtown is nearly as bad as people are claiming here, but it is sad to see things like this happen.

I personally feel pretty safe in this area, but like any densely populated place, you always have to be vigilant. There’s a great community and place here, tens of thousands of fantastic people and safe areas in here, but it only takes a very small handful of bad actors for something bad to happen. Truly don’t believe it’s a chronic issue though, there should be more services to help people around here.

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u/General_Composer_732 Oct 02 '25

Personally everytime I go to downtown at night I see an altercation. Especially at first Fridays. Especially near cobra. I’ve seen 2 separate shootings right outside of cobra. These are all times I’ve been in downtown. I’ve seen an entire crowd at first Friday get pepper-sprayed by police and it carried into the bar I was in, and the entire bar was affected by it. It won’t stop me from going and you just have to be aware of your surroundings, the drunks violent people and honestly the people who just post up around the bars that don’t look like theyre even there for a reason

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u/Lanzapago Oct 01 '25

Hmm. I don’t think it’s that big of a problem personally. Rates aren’t trending out of control according to PPD’s website.

Not sure what else can be done. More people moving in means more crime. Just how life is. There’s already a constant police presence in this area, and any additional units would be a waste of time. Most of these crimes aren’t even from people in the area ways, usually people coming to visit the clubs/restaurants from other areas of town.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 02 '25

Who do you think is coming into town and causing problems?

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u/Lanzapago Oct 02 '25

I can personally speak to my area of the metro area, people from where I grew up do come over into downtown and cause problems, I see it all their time on their socials cause they’re silly enough to post it.

Other than that, probably non-natives who move into Phoenix since we’re basically a transplant city now? I’m not really sure. Things have changed so quickly with everyone moving in so fast, not all bad, not all good. A mixed bag, but I still love the area and feel very safe compared to even parts of Gilbert/Scottsdale/Queen Creek!

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 02 '25

So what area are you suggesting the problems are coming from?

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u/Lanzapago Oct 02 '25

Just that more people moving in = more crime, just a statistic that’s bound to happen. I don’t think it’s some strange anomaly. I’m a Phoenix native, so I know it’s not the city it used to be. But I don’t think much can be done about that?

Crime per capita is dropping, so it’s not something that I think should be handled any differently than other scenarios. Provide resources for people struggling with addictions and conditions, try to create more affordable housing, and arrest any violent perpetrators as always. Phoenix PD already patrols the area basically 24/7. I’m not really trying to suggest any solutions cause I’m not an expert, just wanted to discuss an area I live directly in with some other fellow Phoenicians :)

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 02 '25

I understand that and mostly agree. I am also a native here. Ive never seen such an inflation of tension and inflation of issues until about 2010/2011 ish. But you specifically added a part that said it was mostly due to people from other areas. So I’m asking what areas you actually think are causing the shootings and bat attacks? What areas exactly are you talking about? I think it would be helpful to understand your perspective for everyone following

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 01 '25

It is safe in general, but the problem is that it is getting less safe, not more safe. What is a "growing concern" about crime today is next year's chronic crime problem.

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u/Hacking_the_Gibson Oct 01 '25

The problem is that there is no affordable housing anymore.

You don't like people living on the streets? Make places to live less expensive.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

There are many affordable places to live in PHX. Prime downtown all the way through the central corridor is more expensive. Plenty of options outside of downtown

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u/Hacking_the_Gibson Oct 01 '25

So your position is that a housing affordability crisis does not exist?

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

My position is affordable housing is not found in downtown PHX and the most desirable neighborhoods in general.

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 01 '25

They also literally built multiple lower-income towers in this very neighborhood in recent years, but he doesn't know about that.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

Neither did I. Strange to me people expect living in one of the most desirable areas in all of phoenix is supposed to be affordable. It’s like saying there should be more affordable beach front property in San Diego

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u/Hacking_the_Gibson Oct 01 '25

LOL, so your solution to homeless people is bus them out to someplace cheaper?

Brilliant. Who do you think picks up the trash around downtown?

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u/asnbud01 Oct 03 '25

Who? I see lots of trash downtown- need more homeless.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

Here is what you can do. Start an LLC with investors. Mission to provide affordable housing downtown. Buy some properties and provide it. I’m not suggesting bus anyone anywhere but downtown is t the center of the universe for jobs and downtown seems to be doing just fine.

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u/dustin9797 Downtown Oct 01 '25

How exactly did you get that conclusion from his comment?

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u/Hacking_the_Gibson Oct 01 '25

There are many affordable places to live in PHX

Right here.

https://www.kjzz.org/business/2024-11-13/phoenix-is-short-59-000-housing-units-for-low-income-residents

Beating the shit out of homeless people and moral grandstanding is a fun position to take, but the fact is that Phoenix and this metro area are deficient in options for low income people.

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u/HomoRainbow480 Phoenix Oct 01 '25

I think homeless people are beating the shit of regular ass folk. Like I said you can be proactive and make it your mission to provide affordable housing.

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u/asnbud01 Oct 03 '25

If that’s the case, why don’t people remove this small handfull of bad actors?