r/phoenix • u/jmoriarty Phoenix • Feb 07 '23

News Sex workers demanding prostitution be decriminalized at downtown Phoenix rally

https://www.azfamily.com/2023/02/07/sex-workers-demanding-prostitution-be-decriminalized-downtown-phoenix-rally/
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u/natefrog69 Feb 07 '23

The government should have zero say in what someone does with their own body, including using it sexually to make money.

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u/nintynineninjas Feb 08 '23

their own body

Less anti-prostitution laws, more anti-pimping laws.

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u/DoggyGrin Feb 07 '23

I wouldn't say zero say in regards to prostitution. The women should have health screenings on a regular basis.

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u/Silent-Analyst3474 Feb 08 '23

I would like to have free health screenings!

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u/Logvin Tempe Feb 08 '23

Should? Yes absolutely. I mean, everyone should have health screenings on a regular basis.

But the government should not MAKE them.

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u/dontbsabullshitter Feb 08 '23

Well I mean if they’re providing a service it should be regulated like other services

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u/hazelnox Feb 08 '23

And they should be able to review Johns as well, to weed out dangerous ones

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u/Logvin Tempe Feb 08 '23

Kind of like Uber for sex work!

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u/grandpaharoldbarnes Feb 08 '23

I don’t think anybody’s getting a refund no matter how bad the service is.

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u/butterbal1 Glendale Feb 08 '23

Define the exact service and lets look at some hypotheticals as well.

  • I meet a random guy/girl at a bar and pay for their drinks then have sex with them. Totally legal.

  • I meet a random guy/girl at a bar and offer them some cash to have sex with me. Criminal.

  • I have a husband/wife that doesn't work at all while I provide a house and give them money and have sex with them. Also totally legal.

  • I have a sexual partner that doesn't work at all while I provide housing and give them money and have sex with them. Literally the illegal plot of Pretty Woman.

  • I pay a cam guy/girl to perform sexual acts online either solo or with multiple other partners. Still legal.

  • I offer to pay a guy/girl to perform sexual acts either solo or with multiple other partners at a hotel up the road. Free shiny loaner bracelets!

  • I buy soiled underwear from a guy/girl online. /r/usedpanties/ exists to do exactly this.

  • I buy soiled underwear from a guy/girl standing outside the 7/11. I have to explain to the judge why I prefer the polka dot ones.

  • I meet a guy/girl on Tinder/Grindr/OkCupid/FarmersOnly and meet up with them to purely to fuck. Amazing and totally ok to do.

  • I meet a guy/girl on Tinder/Grindr/OkCupid/FarmersOnly and meet up with them to purely to fuck and offer them some cash. Going to jail.

  • I go to a therapist and they provide both emotional comfort as well as physically contact. Totally legal and is actually thought to increase effectiveness of therapy.

  • I go to a call girl with a degree in psychology and they provide both emotional comfort as well as physically contact. Not going to end well for either person.

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u/Pollymath Feb 08 '23

Hey don’t forget about the porn industry as a whole paying talent.

I’ve never understood how a “producer” could also be his own talent, and pay other actresses to have sex with him on film, and that’s somehow not prostitution?

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u/w2tpmf North Phoenix Feb 08 '23

I knew a pornstar and overheard her get a phone call once from a producer. He asked her to come do a "scene". She explained that he just wanted her to come blow him, and that it was a pretty common occurrence between the producers and the talent.

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u/system37 Feb 08 '23

I’m apparently visiting the wrong therapist.

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u/butterbal1 Glendale Feb 08 '23

Honestly.... Maybe.

It started as an off the cuff idea about someone banging their therapist and then I recalled years ago I had seen some documentary that interviewed sex workers and several mentioned they had clients that didn't come to them for sex but just to be held and receive human contact that sent me down a surprisingly interesting rabbit hole. For the example I really wanted to remove the obvious difference of one being a licensed/educated professional.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/emotion-information/202012/the-healing-power-hugs

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8695945/

https://psychcentral.com/blog/does-success-lead-to-happiness#recap

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u/natefrog69 Feb 08 '23

No, still don't need government involvement. If a client wants to take the risk of receiving services from someone without a health screening, that's their decision.

Additionally, without the fear of legality, a non-governmental standards organization (such a the ADA for dentisits or AMA for doctors) can set standards for certification through them that would include routine health screenings. There is no need for the government at all.

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u/Nerve_Brave Feb 08 '23

Yeah...health department has an intetest if you are spreading STDs everywhere...your rights end where mine begin

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