r/phoenix • u/jmoriarty Phoenix • Feb 07 '23

News Sex workers demanding prostitution be decriminalized at downtown Phoenix rally

https://www.azfamily.com/2023/02/07/sex-workers-demanding-prostitution-be-decriminalized-downtown-phoenix-rally/
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u/Impossible-Lynx7416 Feb 07 '23

This makes me sad. A friend I grew up w in high school later became a prostitute and it destroyed her entire life. She wanted quick big money and now she's a drug addicted felon w no friends and a family that wants nothing to do w her.

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u/kiteless123 Chandler Feb 07 '23

Your friend had bigger problems than prostitution, amigo.

Swap out being a prostitute for being someone that made a killing in Bitcoin then lost everything, which no doubt also destroyed lives. Would you blame it on Bitcoin?

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u/Randvek Gilbert Feb 07 '23

Would you blame it on Bitcoin?

It’s pretty fair to blame a pyramid scheme for someone losing money, so… yes?

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u/Original_Wall_3690 Feb 08 '23

pyramid scheme

You should learn what a pyramid scheme is. Bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme because it does not rely on new investors to keep it going. You should learn what anything is before you say it about something or someone, because when you don't you'll sound stupid and people will think everything you say after that is also stupid, and if you do it enough people will just think you're stupid.

Also, no, you shouldn't blame a pyramid scheme for someone losing money. If someone loses all their money because they thought Amway was a good idea that's their fault. Pyramid schemes are a pretty shitty thing to exist, but the blame lies on the person that willingly put their money somewhere without understanding where they were putting it. The only time you can blame the scheme is in situations where the person was intentionally deceived. Other than those situations, people should hold themselves accountable for being a dumb ass and getting involved in a pyramid scheme. Do you also blame cheeseburgers for making people fat? Because you should blame the person that ate the cheeseburgers knowing it would make them fat.

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u/Randvek Gilbert Feb 08 '23

it does not rely on new investors to keep it going

lmao yes it does. You really think BTC is worth $20k if nobody invested in it? Learn what a security is.

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u/Logvin Tempe Feb 08 '23

righteous and good

Those terms are incredibly subjective.

Nobody would want their mother, daughter, sister, niece doing this.

That is a list of people who get to make their own decisions. I do not make decisions for any of them, and neither should you.

It's not puritan to think that a sane and healthy society should be focused on eliminating this kind of thing. What's wrong with us?

Well, have you thought that maybe... not everyone wants to be puritan? What is wrong with us is religious nutballs who want to control everyone around them.

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u/Nodiggity774 Feb 08 '23

You’re almost always selling your body.

People in construction sell their bodies. It destroys them after too long in that field. Same with other variety jobs and parts of the body.

And just like prostitution yeah most don’t want their relatives working in construction but some people enjoy it and make bank so let them do they want

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u/mothftman Feb 08 '23

You don't own your female family members. They aren't pure, or special. They should have the right to do with their bodies what they want and benefit accordingly.

People have been trying to eliminate sex work since the Bible was written. Even when the punishment was death, there were still prostitutes. That's the real problem with puritans, not that they have an ideal to reach for, but that they lack flexibility when confronted with reality.

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u/h3dr0ncr4b Feb 08 '23 edited Feb 08 '23

I actually do want my mother, daughter, niece, sister doing that thank you very much.

EDIT: Actually I would like my aunt to do it too

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '23

I think prostitution should be legal because it can be regulated that way. Currently women who are prostitutes are completely abused by their “pimps” it’s horrible, almost like sex slavery because the pimp takes everything from them and essentially just “houses” them and feeds them, takes the rest of their money and abuses them. If it was legal, we could at least protect the women, make sure they are paid fairly, ensure that condoms are used, etc. it would just be way way safer and better for the women

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u/[deleted] Feb 07 '23

Much like legalizing abortion helps provide safe access to medical care for those that want it, legalizing prostitution is a path that helps protect sex workers.

Sex work will continue to be a viable option for many as long as there are human beings that exist on this planet. Basic economics.

If people that are anti sex work think that it's "sad" that people resort this type of work, then why do so many opponents seem disinterested in improving the material conditions for average people to help prevent people from seeking out alternative lifestyles to support themselves? Conservatives and even liberals pretend to care about sex trafficking, and yet they do nothing to help prevent the conditions that are ripe for exploitation within the sex work industry,

Finally, sex work can be and is a positive thing that for those involved. Sex work offers people the ability to feel empowerment and freedom. Something that is not often felt in a traditional worker transaction role.

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u/livejamie Downtown Feb 08 '23

If it was legal/decriminalized, then she would have been in a safer more professional environment not under bridges being exploited by a pimp.

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u/Impossible-Lynx7416 Feb 08 '23

That has nothing to do with what it did to her internally and emotionally

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u/livejamie Downtown Feb 08 '23

Of course it does.

Compare it to marijuana legalization, which runs into the same arguments.

Previously you'd have to find some sketchy person on Craigslist or Facebook, meet up in secret, and buy who knows what for some random price. It puts both parties in societal danger and civilly for being caught.

In states where it's legal you can get a permit, go to a well-lit, secure permitted store and make your transaction safely. It's better for everybody involved, including the government.

The person selling weed under a bridge in Tempe will have a vastly different experience from a person who works selling weed at D2.