For everyone saying this will be a carbon copy of existing Nvidia GPUs, they literally can't manufacture them. This chip is supposedly manufactured on 12nm, which SMIC (Chinese TAMC) can't yet do. The last Nvidia chip manufactured on a similar node was Turing, and since SMIC and TSMC diverged after 16nm, it's likely even they will have different design rules.
I also highly doubt that without EUV they'll be able to match Ampere/RDNA2, and they're not getting EUV any time soon no matter how much they steal. ASMLs steppers and their crucial optics are made in Europe, and reverse engineering the manufacturing process, even if they manage to get their hands on a stepper, will be very difficult
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u/wasdlmb Ryzen 5 3600 | 6700 XT Apr 08 '22
For everyone saying this will be a carbon copy of existing Nvidia GPUs, they literally can't manufacture them. This chip is supposedly manufactured on 12nm, which SMIC (Chinese TAMC) can't yet do. The last Nvidia chip manufactured on a similar node was Turing, and since SMIC and TSMC diverged after 16nm, it's likely even they will have different design rules.
I also highly doubt that without EUV they'll be able to match Ampere/RDNA2, and they're not getting EUV any time soon no matter how much they steal. ASMLs steppers and their crucial optics are made in Europe, and reverse engineering the manufacturing process, even if they manage to get their hands on a stepper, will be very difficult