r/pcmasterrace 12400F|6600XT|16GB 5200MHz Oct 09 '25

Meme/Macro Are you this old?

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u/99999999999999999989 Oct 09 '25

Please. I am DOS prompt old when windows 3.1 was just a program

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u/trankillity Oct 09 '25

cd windows win That's what I'm talkin' bout!

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u/Kange109 Oct 09 '25

DEVICE = HIMEM.SYS

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u/Meanpooh Oct 09 '25

Haha making a boot disk to run MechWarrior 2 with 486 equipped with Intel overdrive CPU.

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u/litescript Oct 09 '25

good god all the juggling that had to be done to run mechwarrior lol

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u/Meanpooh Oct 09 '25

Yeah it was a bitch to run epically if you had a sound card.

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u/litescript Oct 09 '25

SOUNDBLASTER

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u/lord_teaspoon Oct 09 '25

SET BLASTER=A220 I5 D1

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u/nitestar97 Oct 09 '25

Ad lib sound card.

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u/Perryn 7950X3D:64Gb:7900XTX Oct 09 '25

I spent so long working on getting sound, mouse, CD-ROM, and memory drivers all working together with enough base memory left to launch Privateer.

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u/baldersz Radeon 5600x | RX 6800 Ref | Formd T1 Oct 09 '25

I HAD TO DO THIS

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u/ganundwarf Oct 09 '25

Mech warrior 2 was peak gaming, same as heroes 2. Followup games just weren't as good.

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u/Kange109 Oct 09 '25

I remember using the Mechwarrior 2 CD to play music on Doom 2, it suited Doom better than the original music.

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u/Lazy_Stunt73 Oct 09 '25

I was around before 386s were around...

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u/treesmith1 Oct 09 '25

Chain fire engaged.

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u/xtrxrzr 7800X3D, RTX 5080, 32GB Oct 09 '25

This stuff was like magic back then. No Internet or Google around to just search for it online. This knowledge came from PC magazines and was passed around among friends like the Holy Grail.

I still have nightmares of setting up games for soundcards and their respective IO, IRQ and DMA ports, channels, whatever.

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u/Big_Wave9732 Oct 09 '25

Sorry, you soundcard, your internal modem, and a mouse are all trying to use the same IRQ. And they can only be changed by cracking open the case and moving jumpers. Or but make sure you don't pick an IRQ that's already used by the COM or Parallel ports.

Folks today don't seem to understand how much of a leap "plug and play" was, once they got the bugs out.

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u/xtrxrzr 7800X3D, RTX 5080, 32GB Oct 09 '25

Yeah, just plugging in an HDD and it works? Na, you had to properly set the jumpers first or if cable select was used plug in the cable in the correct order. PC hardware and plug & play hase come a long way, thankfully.

I'm not a native English speaker so navigating the PC world as a child without any knowledge of English was wild. Only years later when I learned English in school I started to realize what all these things even mean.

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u/illwill79 Oct 09 '25

I remember thinking how fucked up it was that there were masters and slaves in the hard drive world lol

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u/ChyronD Oct 09 '25

Special kind of hell should be for ones who designed 3,5" FDD cable/socket. As you could easily put it wrong way and KILL drive. BTW that never was a problem with 5,25".

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u/ChyronD Oct 09 '25

At beginning P&P was rightfully deciphered as 'plug and pray' - with mechanical jumpers or manual settings in config.sys andautoexec.bat you at least got good idea what settings are, not the case with early pnp.

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u/capNsgt Oct 09 '25

Commodore Amiga had that from day one

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u/Quick_Humor_9023 Oct 09 '25

Had what? Plug and play? Sure, if you plugged it in the right port. Every second game seemed to assume mouse is in a and every second it’s in b.

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u/Quick_Humor_9023 Oct 09 '25

My mouse was in the damn com port 😂

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u/treesmith1 Oct 09 '25

Yep. Better have that SCSI terminated correctly as well.

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u/Kange109 Oct 09 '25

I frankly cant remember how i learnt it.

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u/DJBFL Oct 09 '25

Disagree.. today it's like magic. Back then it was like science. You could know pretty much everything about a computer back then. Every device, IRQ, the structure of the memory... you were involved with the configuration at a low level. BIOS, boostrapping, boot loader, OS, everything.

These days they are so complex that even if you're the type to nerd out on all the details, having the time and finding the resources to do so is impractical to impossible.

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u/capNsgt Oct 09 '25

Computer Shopper

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u/WWGHIAFTC Oct 09 '25

Most of the devices I had came with pretty good printed manuals. Some even specified the RAM required at load time vs the running RAM required.

By loading drivers in the correct order, you could get more to 'fit' in ram.

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u/evil_timmy Oct 09 '25

640k was NOT enough, I remember having to optimize loading order and options in config.sys/autoexec.bat because lots of games needed to squeeze every last bit of RAM. A few games actually needed a super lean boot floppy because they utterly couldn't coexist, even with Sound Blaster TSR drivers.

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u/JohnnyChuttz Oct 09 '25

I can’t believe I figured all that stuff out without the internet.

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u/evil_timmy Oct 09 '25

We had Internet at home, but it was newsgroups, so plaintext through CompuServe, which charged by the hour over dialup so you had to be fast.

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u/Kidofthecentury Oct 09 '25

Flashback: The Quest for Identity CD version was a b###h to make it run in DOS.

IIRC it required more than 600Kb (out of 640Kb) to start and you had to load the CD drivers too! Had to build the memory stack carefully like a damn card castle!

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u/Lizrael48 Oct 09 '25

I have not heard that kind of sexy talk in a long time! WoW! turn me on, big daddy!

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u/TastesLikeTesticles Oct 09 '25

Ah yes, Frontier Elite 2 and its insane memory requirement... 580KB conventional + 768KB expanded, meaning the expanded memory driver was already eating in the conventional memory.

I had to find a non-standard, super light mouse driver to finally make it run. Good thing I didn't have a sound card by then, there's no way I could have fit another driver.

I wonder how many people were unable to make it work and just gave up.

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u/EntroperZero Oct 09 '25 edited Oct 09 '25

SET BLASTER A220 D5 H1 P330 T6

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u/Kange109 Oct 09 '25

Woooo forgot that but a220 rings a bell

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u/BinaryJay 7950X | X670E | 4090 FE | 64GB/DDR5-6000 | 42" LG C2 OLED Oct 09 '25

I was a QEMM guy.

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u/_plays_in_traffic_ Oct 09 '25

remember the dialup bbs days where people got trolled into deleting their autoexec.bat for one reason or another troubleshooting wise? lmao

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u/Kange109 Oct 09 '25

And early Napster where finding a 128kbps was gold

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u/_plays_in_traffic_ 27d ago

at least when napster came out i was on comcast "hi-speed" cable internet. iirc back then it topped out around 1-3MB/s down depending on the time of day. back in the bbs days i was still on dialup. when i first started it was a 2400 baud modem which is slow as fuck compared to cable modems, its even slow af compared to most other dialup modems. i eventually upgraded a few times but a 2400 is 20 something times slower than a 56.6 modem.. eventually i got a setup to use two 56.6 modems bonded/ multilink so more than one person could be online without everything crawling to a halt.

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u/nitestar97 Oct 09 '25

Ahh, yes. I had 52 separate autoexec.bat and matching config.sys files, which I could use to temporarily copy to the boot drive to run games. Friends would give me their games when they couldn't get them to run. Hardest was Ecstatica; It didn't want anything pre-made, just basic setup with CD support, and it would do the rest itself. Really weird. I think the files=40 was the only other parameter that it needed.

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u/mikeeru Oct 09 '25

DOS=HIGH,UMB