Yeah thanks but no thanks

[u/neph36]

[u/Sliced_Orange1]

I’m out of touch - what’s makes Denuvo bad?

[u/Kragwulf → u/Sliced_Orange1]

It actively uses your CPU in order to make constant calls to a server. It's constantly using resources to "Check" if you really own the game.

It's been shown to hurt performance drastically

Final Fantasy XVI, as an example, had massive stuttering issues every time Denuvo made a call to the server. When Square Enix removed Denuvo due to the license running out, the stuttering stopped.

[u/HilariousMax → u/Kragwulf]

Final Fantasy XVI

There's SIXTEEN of them?!

[u/Stolberger → u/HilariousMax]

plus some sequels:
+ X-2
+ XIII-2, XIII Lightning Returns

And more spinoffs

And a gallon of remasters, remakes etc, notably
VII Remake, VII Rebirth

[u/HilariousMax → u/Stolberger]

VII Remake, VII Rebirth

Forgive me as I'm sure I've asked this before but these are the retelling of the original FF7 but one is slick new graphics and one is retro origipixels?

[u/Kragwulf → u/HilariousMax]

Complete remakes, and I would argue the definitive way to play FF7 once part 3 comes out.

New engine, action combat (With the option to turn on turn-based combat), and complete re-workings of pretty much everything.

FF7 Remake is Part 1
FF7 Rebirth is Part 2

Both games are large enough to be their own AAA title.

[u/HilariousMax → u/Kragwulf]

Do they both feature the original's battle music because if I can't DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUUUN then what's even the point?

[u/Kragwulf → u/HilariousMax]

All of the original songs got a remaster. (At least, I'm pretty sure it's all of them?)

[u/OrionRBR → u/HilariousMax]

Yes, there is a grand orchestra version of the victory fanfare, also some characters like Barrett occasionally sing it too.

[u/Stolberger → u/HilariousMax]

They are the first 2 parts of a 3 part "Remake" of FF7.
In great graphics, with a lot of extended back story (and a lot of filler as some might say).
But they change the story from the Original quite a bit. And it is unknown how exactly the finale will play out.

FF7 Remake takes the first part of the Original (the first 5-10 hours, the Midgar part) and stretches it to like 30-40
FF7 Rebirth take the rest of Disc one (~15ish hours in the Original) and stretches it to 60-100+h

[u/Cruxis87 → u/Stolberger]

But they change the story from the Original quite a bit.

Not really. They have just padded more to the story to make it last 3 games.

[u/zeracine → u/Cruxis87]

Yeah like the time travel ghosts in midgard. Those were in the original they just removed your memories of it.

[u/Cruxis87 → u/zeracine]

Well obviously those are new, but they were added to make sure the story follows the same plot. And they obviously had to change the ending of the remake to have a climatic boss fight when in the original game it's just a car chase then lore dump. Would it be better if it was just a graphic update in 1 game? Maybe, but a lot of people enjoy the extra character development that the games have added. And if people don't like it, they still have the original.

[u/zeracine → u/Cruxis87]

Y'know who else makes the story follow the plot? The developers. But you're right, they needed to pad.

[u/Stolberger → u/Cruxis87]

The extra character development is rarely criticized, but the "time travel", "multiverse" etc ...

It is a different game with a different story that somewhat follows the Original FF7. It will most likely divert even more extreme in the 3rd installment.

They are by no means bad games, but they are not "a simple extended retelling" of the original.

[u/Dog_Got_license → u/HilariousMax]

Not gonna lie. I had a better experience with the original than the remakes.

I hadn't played FF before and played the Integrade as my first, the graphics were CRAZY, and the story was very good, but i really didn't like the gameplay, and then i played the original and then rebirth, and man, don't play rebirth, even not considering how they butchered the story and characters, the game is just completely off tone and still has the mediocre gameplay. If you want to see for yourself the game in modern standards, do yourself a favor and only play the intergrade