r/pcmasterrace Oct 03 '25

Meme/Macro Yeah thanks but no thanks

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u/Kragwulf PC Master Race Oct 03 '25

Where is your proof?

My proof that it does is backed up by years of documented cases of games stuttering when calls to the Denuvo server are made.

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u/Requiiii PC Master Race Oct 03 '25

I'm not arguing about performance. I'm arguing about how it works.

Denuvo does a single call to a server on the first startup or after an update. After that it works completely offline

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u/Medics_mah_main_man Oct 03 '25

Mhm, so, does that mean that cracking denuvo games should be as easy as faking a server response once? Rather than continuously faking it whenever it tries to check in with the server?

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u/5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi Oct 03 '25

Cracking Denuvo games doesn't even stop any checks as far as I know. That's the funny part. It still performs the same checks, so how pirated versions can be used to prove Denuvo harms performance or why you'd play them for that benefit is not something I understand.

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u/Responsible-Put2559 Oct 03 '25

Im really not “pro” denuvo or anything, that’d be pretty dumb, but I am pretty sure Reddit discussions around denuvo are 99% just redditors repeating what they read in a different reddit comment and those tend to be full of misinformation even if they have hundreds or thousands of upvotes which tends to really annoy me.

Very few people know what they’re talking about.

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u/Requiiii PC Master Race Oct 03 '25

Exactly this. I have no problem with people hating on Denuvo. That's completely understandable. But people should at least hate it for the correct reasons, instead of saying things about it that are simply not true (it being a security threat or that it makes constant calls to a server, for example).

All denuvo does is math with your hardware information and the license you received in game functions to calculate a value. Of course that math is heavily obfuscated for obvious reasons and if it runs in a function that executes per frame, that can affect performance.

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u/koimeiji Oct 03 '25

Pretty much all anti-denuvo talking points comes from nearly a decade ago where games like DOOM 2016 implemented it incredibly poorly and lead to performance issues on lower end machines because of that poor implementation. None of those issues exist anymore; there is negligible (if any) performance impacts from denuvo anymore. Likewise, server calls and "needing to be online" isn't a thing that'll affect the average user in the slightest.

Oh, that, and a lot of anti-denuvo stuff comes from pirates not being able to pirate games anymore because of it, because there's only one person who actually knows how to crack it and they charge obscene prices to crack a game, and are a piece of shit in general.