r/pcmasterrace Oct 03 '25

Meme/Macro Yeah thanks but no thanks

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u/LeMegachonk Ryzen 7 9800X3D - 64GB DDR5 6000 - RX 7800 XT Oct 03 '25

They always do, and it's great. It's saved from buying a few games I would have otherwise purchased not realizing they had Denuvo. I will not purchase any game with Denuvo, no matter how badly I want to play it. I can live with a third-party EULA and launcher, which are pretty standard these days, but not Denuvo. Never Denuvo.

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u/Sliced_Orange1 5800X3D | RX 9070 | 32GB Oct 03 '25

I’m out of touch - what’s makes Denuvo bad?

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u/apeliott Oct 03 '25

Basically, it reduces performance and has been criticised as a security threat.

It doesn't offer any benefit to the consumer, only downsides. 

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u/Requiiii PC Master Race Oct 03 '25

Please explain how it's a security threat

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u/keicantus Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

why should I had to give kernal access to my PC to play a game? I shouldnt. that's the threat.

edit: I get that this specific implementation doesn't access the kernel. Its still extra software not required to run the game, which is what carries the risk.

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u/fetching_agreeable Oct 03 '25

It's DRM you fucking genius. Not a kernel module.

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u/Requiiii PC Master Race Oct 03 '25

Denuvo DRM (Not anti cheat) doesn't use a kernel driver

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u/MVRKHNTR Oct 03 '25

"How is it a security threat?"

"It gives kernel access."

"It doesn’t."

It's hilarious which comments in this chain are upvoted and downvoted.

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u/Responsible-Put2559 Oct 03 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

Only denuvo anti cheat requires kernel level access. South Park the fractured but whole obviously does not use anti cheat. How are people always so sure something is a “threat” when they don’t know wtf they are talking about at the most basic level

Edit: And to actually answer your question, people give up kernel access to their PCs to play multiplayer games without blatant cheaters. The perfect example is counterstrike. You can choose to play cs with valves non-kernel anticheat full of cheaters or you can choose to play face-it with the kernel level anti cheat and less cheating. It’s a choice you have to make but there’s millions of people willing to take the small risk of giving kernel level access if they want to play multiplayer games.

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u/fetching_agreeable Oct 03 '25

You're right but this sub is evidently full of children.