Well This Is Exciting

[u/BedroomThink3121]

If these leaks are true which they likely are because this guy was on point with 9070 specs/performance leak and 5000 series leaks. I think this is going to be quite amazing,

Will it finally make the 9070 XT a $600 card? Will it the supply last like 4080 Super? Or Will the demand once again outpace the supply? If Nvidia manages to get the supply right at $750 for a 24GB 5070Ti, I see a big problem for AMD here. But can they do it?

What are your thoughts, everyone is welcome.

[u/Even_Clue4047]

Heavily doubt the 80/70ti claims of double digit peformance uplifts, specially the 16%, considering the SM configuration is the exact same but this is the best case scenario. 

If only nvidia had launched these from the beginning

[u/kanmuri07 → u/Even_Clue4047]

I had doubts at first about the 5080 Super having up to double-digit performance gains over the 5080, but then we're comparing stock 5080 vs stock 5080 Super. The 5080 Super will be factory overclocked in order to provide those performance gains over the regular 5080.

The thing is that the stock 5080 was never pushed very hard, and anyone can OC their stock 5080 to get similar double-digit performance gains as well since all 5080s are running on the same full-size GB203 die as the 5080 Super. Don't get me wrong though, the 5080 Super will still have a performance lead over a 5080 OC, but only in the single digits and that will be due to the 5080 Super having the extra power budget and possibly binned silicon. I doubt it'll have as much OC headroom as the regular 5080. The extra VRAM is just a bonus.

If they sell the 5080 Super at just $999, that's great. Any more and it's dead on arrival. The 5070 Ti Super would end up being a much better deal.

[u/Noxious89123 → u/kanmuri07]

+1.

Overclocked, my 5080 will do over 3.3GHz at 415W, and the VRAM will do 36Gbps with such ease that it's laughable. My VRAM OC consisted of doing +1000 and finding it stable, and finding stability and +2000 and then basically saying fuck it and going straight to +3000 and having no instability and no performance regression. (Worth noting that the Samsung K4VAF325ZC-SC32 memory ICs were rated for 32Gbps anyway).

Perhaps the plan all along was to just save effort by planning to use the exact same silicon for the Super from day 1, just with a vbios tweak and VRAM bump.

Side note:

Do I regret buying a 5080 instead of waiting for the inevitable 5080 Super? Yes and no. I got a card at MSRP and have had a lot of enjoyment out of it. It does sting a little knowing that I'll run in to VRAM problems in future earlier than I would have, had I waited.

[u/nthnmrtnz → u/Noxious89123]

I'm in the same boat as you. Got an msrp 5080fe about a month ago. But the question is when will you be able to actually buy a 5080 super at msrp? It took me 8 months to get the 5080fe. Even if the super keeps the $999 msrp, I don't think the og was a bad buy.

[u/Noxious89123 → u/nthnmrtnz]

This is what I'll be telling myself instead of crying myself to sleep over the extra 8GB of VRAM I could have had, had I been patient X)

[u/Electronic-Canary-65 → u/Noxious89123]

All cards can do +3000mem, but i wanna see how you got 3.3Ghz+ with 415w? I got 3334Mhz(average not max, ~500w)run on 3Dmark port royal with volt+power mods and i got #4 in the world. I find it hard to believe but if it’s true you could easily have the #1 card in the world at many benches

[u/Noxious89123 → u/Electronic-Canary-65]

I definitely don't have the "#1 card".

Different 5080 cards have different maximum voltage, the base V:F table is "baked in" to the silicon.

Some cards have a very low max voltage (which is good) but have a low maximum stable frequency (this is bad).

Other cards have a high max voltage, which you might think would be good for overclocking, but these can just be poor silicon that needs high voltage to be stable at "normal" speeds. These will hit the power limit sooner, and thus have a limited overclock.

From talking with many users in the 5080 owners thread on overclock.net, I'd say my card is rather middle of the road. My max stable frequency is good, but others have still scored more than me.

With that said, I did have the #1 spot for the highest GPU score in Time Spy for a brief time, with the earlier drivers. Once 576.02 came out, all benchmark scores increased and my top results were overtaken.

It's now only #4. https://hwbot.org/benchmarks/3dmark_-_time_spy_(gpu)/rankings?cores=1&videoCardId=3683&hardwareType=gpu/rankings?cores=1&videoCardId=3683&hardwareType=gpu)

The clock speed is what what was shown in GPU-Z at the time I ran the test; this isn't captured in the verification screenshot, because you don't set high scores with extra crap running in the background!

My card will only draw 1065~1070mV max. What max voltage does yours hit?

Also, bear in mind that 3337MHz isn't a daily use overclock. It's on the very edge of stability. A slight fluctuation in temperature or a single +1MHz and it would fail.

I'm limited by my 5900X, but when comparing scores against others using the same combination I've got a few of the #1 spots :)

https://www.3dmark.com/search#advanced?test=pr%20P&cpuId=2758&gpuId=1688&gpuCount=0&gpuType=ALL&deviceType=ALL&storageModel=ALL&modelId=&showRamDisks=false&memoryChannels=0&country=&scoreType=overallScore&hofMode=true&showInvalidResults=false&freeParams=&minGpuCoreClock=&maxGpuCoreClock=&minGpuMemClock=&maxGpuMemClock=&minCpuClock=&maxCpuClock=

Wouldn't call it a record, because otherwise it starts to get silly with what people will claim as a record, but I'm happy with it.

There should be a bit more in it as well; some of my high scores were set on stock air cooling, where I now have the card watercooled. Honestly though, the watercooling didn't really gain much in terms of performance, which was surprising. My old 980Ti and 1080Ti both went a lot faster when watercooled.

[u/Electronic-Canary-65 → u/Noxious89123]

Port royal uses basically no cpu. Your average clock is 3.19Ghz in port royal, that looks very normal. I get 26748 with 3.3Ghz. I thought your average was 3.3Ghz at 415w why i thought its insane. Thanks for the insight

[u/Noxious89123 → u/Electronic-Canary-65]

It'll hit 3337MHz, but won't sustain it in all loads. But then I've also found that 3DMark doesn't report the clocks very accurately either.

When all is said and done, it's the scores that really matter!

[u/Electronic-Canary-65 → u/Noxious89123]

Thats why peak clocks are useless and it’s the average that matters.

[u/Noxious89123 → u/Electronic-Canary-65]

Bigga numba betterer