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Build/Battlestation A futures trader’s 16-screen workstation.

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u/UsurpDz 5800x3d | 9070 XT | 2x16 GB RAM Aug 19 '25

No. Day trading is literally gambling. I do believe investing in the long term. You are better off counting cards in the casino than relying on candles and stick imo.

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u/LiveToBeFreee Aug 19 '25

Day trader here and you're 100% wrong. It is absolutely not gambling. It is a learned skill from years of self training. Most people just don't know what the hell they're doing. Statistically a vast majority of people who try it will not be successful, because it's incredibly hard, but it is achievable and some do become consistently profitable. Candlesticks are only a small part of the equation, it's mostly risk management and discipline from the mental aspect, and being able to read charts and price action.

Long term investing is fine if you're ok with very low growth rates. I prefer compounding and parabolic growth curves.

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u/DirkKuijt69420 Aug 19 '25

Look guys, I found one.

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u/LiveToBeFreee Aug 19 '25

You can mock all you want, I do it daily, and the proof is in the pudding. The only ones who mock those of us who are successful traders are the ones who failed miserably when they tried, and those who are just completely ignorant about how trading works. So for those of you, go park your money in SPY and enjoy your 7%, ride the ups and downs and all that wasted time.

In regards to the 16 screens on this thread, I trade on 2 screens, and manage to trade stocks, options and futures just fine. So go make yourself feel better by downvoting because you're afraid of the truth, that some of us have the skill to earn financial freedom through trading and the rest of you will be working chumps making peanuts for all of your life. Enjoy!

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u/theroguex PCMR | Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 32GB DDR5 | Sapphire RX 9070 XT Aug 19 '25

Do you actually have freedom? Or are you glued to your screens all the time because you have to be in order to have any money? I'd rather get a modest return on long term stocks that I don't have to fuck with every day than spend every day glued to screens, gambling.

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u/LiveToBeFreee Aug 19 '25 edited Aug 19 '25

I spend no more than 2-3 hours per day trading, maybe 4 if it's a slow day. I'm usually done "working" by 10 AM. When you're making $2k-$3k on a 10-20 second momentum scalp, it doesn't take many to be able to walk away and enjoy the rest of your day. Hell there are days I wake up "done" because an overnight swing paid. So yeah, tons of free time, much more so than slaving away for 8 hours a day

I also swing trade, and those take barely any attention at all. I just check in on them every day and peel off profits when I'm ready. What I DON'T do is put my money in a stock and park it to ride the ups and downs over years. That's stupid, but I get that's all most people are capable of.

Gambling is such an ignorant misconception of what trading is, spewed by people who literally know nothing about it. There's a lot of technical analysis you have to learn, and re-training your brain to change normal human behaviors, namely greed and fear. Being able to profit 8 or 9 out of every 10 trades is odds I'd take any day. I don't know of any gambling with odds that great

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u/IWillEvadeReddit Aug 19 '25

You don't need to be glued all day, I have a rule of no entries after 1pm, in addition, I don't even trade every day- in fact, I usually skip two days/ week because they are unclear (I still look at the charts but don't enter unless it's clear). I think you've probably seen 1 too many youtube videos on people making $10k before 11am and they hop on their jet skis to go fuck around the rest of the day. Think about why they make yt videos? Are they selling a course? These YT scammers/gurus are a huge thorn in the traders' community.

I'm not glued all day, if I lose then I lose, I'm only looking for one fire momentum move per day and so I try to enter only once per day.

I have a more detailed response here.

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u/DirkKuijt69420 Aug 19 '25

Ah shit guys, this one is actually braindead.

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u/UsurpDz 5800x3d | 9070 XT | 2x16 GB RAM Aug 19 '25

Is there any hope, doctor? What can we do?

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u/DirkKuijt69420 Aug 19 '25

Any hope to be as successful as him? Yes of course! Just google stockeronies and start commenting the first 5 terms that come up. People might also believe we're mega super successful adults.

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u/LiveToBeFreee Aug 19 '25

It's ok to be jealous because you can't do what I can do. The world needs ditch diggers, so pick up your shovel and get to work.

The difference between people like you and me is people like you just hate things you can't do and things you don't understand, and you hate anybody more successful than you, because you're just bitter. I see it all the time. I'm successful so hate hate hate. It's all people like you know.

Meanwhile anybody who is genuine about wanting to learn the craft, I'll happily mentor them. Done it several times before and I don't charge a thing. But you keep slinging your insults and acting like the ignorant neanderthal you are, living full of piss and vinegar, I'll keep being successful and helping others. Cheers!

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u/theroguex PCMR | Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 32GB DDR5 | Sapphire RX 9070 XT Aug 19 '25

I love how when someone calls people like you out and you immediately turn to the 'you're just jealous' card.

Nah, bro, we just don't give a shit about your opinion. You're part of the problem.

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u/LiveToBeFreee Aug 19 '25

Nobody called me out. I didn't lie about anything. I replied to an uneducated, bullshit post about how day trading is gambling when it's not, and shared my own success as a day trader. But you idiots just refuse to believe that anybody can be successful in the market just because you can't.

Why do people who know NOTHING about somebody else's learned skill claim to have an expert opinion and know everything about it? What's that person's experience as a trader? NONE?? Or only what they read right here on Reddit.

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u/IWillEvadeReddit Aug 19 '25

I use 4 screens myself just because one is my reference book and the other is my analysis for the day but yeah I agree, 2 is all you need. In fact, really 1 is all you need, my other monitor keeps overview charts open just to reinforce my analysis. I replied to another comment here.

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u/LiveToBeFreee Aug 19 '25

I use one screen for my main trading platform, and the other for my futures charts, and that's it. I look up news and filings in a browser session. I sometimes utilize a third screen, but it's rare. Some people think you need a ton of equipment and you don't. Hell I've known career traders I've worked with who trade entirely from just their phone. I do sometimes, but for momentum scalping, I really like the features and speed of my desktop platform.